It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders

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domalino said:
Why?

Felix isn't worth the fee they'd demand. That's the basic problem, he's not worth whatever Atletico would demand for him.

Also why do we want him? We're not going to buy him + Kane/Haaland, and he's not the out and out striker we seem to want.
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We don’t know what fee they would demand.

The bottom line is, Bernardo for Saul is stupid business
 
Gus Cruz said:
We don’t know what fee they would demand.

The bottom line is, Bernardo for Saul is stupid business
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They paid a stupid £120m for him, he was not worth that much. if Atletico hypothetically were to sell him they would demand £100m which he is still not worthy of
 
Gus Cruz said:
We don’t know what fee they would demand.

The bottom line is, Bernardo for Saul is stupid business
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Absolute nonsense, "Stupid business" come on.

City operate in a way that effectively means, you can go if you want to, bring X to the table and we will shake hands.

Bernardo is lost in next seasons potential system with a new forward, behind Mahrez out wide and inevitably KDB when he moves back to midfield.

I'd wager that City and Pep both fancy Saul as a proposition, can play well as a box to box midfielder, and has also gone on record saying he will sacrifice himself for the team and play multiple positions if required - fits the profile.

But stupid business ? A potential swap deal for a player who no longer wants to be here ? And could be lost in next seasons setup ? Bernardo is well loved but that is a silly comment.
 
Onlymcfc said:
Absolute nonsense, "Stupid business" come on.

City operate in a way that effectively means, you can go if you want to, bring X to the table and we will shake hands.

Bernardo is lost in next seasons potential system with a new forward, behind Mahrez out wide and inevitably KDB when he moves back to midfield.

I'd wager that City and Pep both fancy Saul as a proposition, can play well as a box to box midfielder, and has also gone on record saying he will sacrifice himself for the team and play multiple positions if required - fits the profile.

But stupid business ? A potential swap deal for a player who no longer wants to be here ? And could be lost in next seasons setup ? Bernardo is well loved but that is a silly comment.
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It is stupid business. Atletico fans would be over the moon — he hasn’t been dedicated to the team, delivering plenty of mediocre performances, not starting in many games. I am not going to applaud this deal if it were to happen just because it’s our club making it. If they want to give us money and Saul, well, I’ll judge the deal based on the number. But a straight swap is unthinkable — Bernardo is worth more money, simple as that
 
Gus Cruz said:
It is stupid business. Atletico fans would be over the moon — he hasn’t been dedicated to the team, delivering plenty of mediocre performances, not starting in many games. I am not going to applaud this deal if it were to happen just because it’s our club making it. If they want to give us money and Saul, well, I’ll judge the deal based on the number. But a straight swap is unthinkable — Bernardo is worth more money, simple as that
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Don't get me wrong I love Bernardo and I appreciate that there is a lot more to his game than his G/A stats and he does a lot for the team.

However, Im not entirely sure that other teams will perceive his value to be so high when he's scored 5 goals and got 9 assists in 45 games this season.

And ultimately, his 18/19 form is not coming back in our current set up, it caters better for someone like Grealish.
 
Absolutely gutted about Bernardo, I think we will see him rise to the top playing regular in a position that suits him. I would keep am eye on PSG. I think it's possible he will end up in Paris.
 
Seems like the situation is this:

Realistically, if Atletico want Bernardo, they need to find a buyer for Saul. Could be us, could be Bayern, Chelsea etc. If we sell Bernardo, we'll probably buy Grealish.
 
Onlymcfc said:
Don't get me wrong I love Bernardo and I appreciate that there is a lot more to his game than his G/A stats and he does a lot for the team.

However, Im not entirely sure that other teams will perceive his value to be so high when he's scored 5 goals and got 9 assists in 45 games this season.

And ultimately, his 18/19 form is not coming back in our current set up, it caters better for someone like Grealish.
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Have you checked Saul’s assists for the season? Or seen him lately?
 
Marvin said:
If CFC's 'interest' in Haaland is real, then they have huge monies to throw around. I was half-thinking they might be quiet given that they spent £0.2 B last Summer. Difficult as usual to distinguish between fact and fiction in newspaper reports.
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New manager, new requests. Can imagine Tuchel has earned the right to say 'look at what I did with Werner, give me Haaland and watch what I can do'...
 
David El Mago Silva said:
Even if a club was willing to pay 80m for Sterling which I highly doubt, no one else is going to pay his £300k per week wages. The only way he leaves City is if he runs his contract down IMO.
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We the ’fans’ tend to downplay the prices quoted for our star players. Sterling’s form has hit the buffers but it could be an anomaly rather than the norm.He has won a ton of trophies and is an international.

£100+ covid and form.
£80m now I can see clubs thinking he could be sold for over £100 down the line?
 
Gus Cruz said:
It is stupid business. Atletico fans would be over the moon — he hasn’t been dedicated to the team, delivering plenty of mediocre performances, not starting in many games. I am not going to applaud this deal if it were to happen just because it’s our club making it. If they want to give us money and Saul, well, I’ll judge the deal based on the number. But a straight swap is unthinkable — Bernardo is worth more money, simple as that
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Basically you think it's stupid business because you don't rate Saul.

Sorry, but that means fuck all. If Pep likes him and thinks he's good enough that's all that matters.

Also no one said it would be a straight swap. Could be Saul + €€€ for Bernardo.
 
domalino said:
Not really realistic though is it?

Hi guys, our player really wants out, we bought him for £45m, he's worth more now....can we have that kid you spent £120m on?
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Bernie is worth at least £70-80. Felix has hardly set the world on fire at atletico since his big move. They would be getting a fantastic player who will get back to high standards. The racist thing had a huge impact.
 
domalino said:
Basically you think it's stupid business because you don't rate Saul.

Sorry, but that means fuck all. If Pep likes him and thinks he's good enough that's all that matters.

Also no one said it would be a straight swap. Could be Saul + €€€ for Bernardo.
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The stupid business, in case it wasn’t clear the first, second or third time, is the straight swap. If money is involved, LIKE I SAID IN THE POST YOU QUOTED, it COULD be a different story.

Also, sorry, but I have a brain of my own. Pep can like a player and I can still have an opinion about said player based on my observations. For instance, let’s hypothetically pretend those Sergi Roberto stories were true— do I have to suddenly ignore everything my eye has seen because “Pep rates him”?
 
Gus Cruz said:
The stupid business, in case it wasn’t clear the first, second or third time, is the straight swap. If money is involved, LIKE I SAID IN THE POST YOU QUOTED, it COULD be a different story.

Also, sorry, but I have a brain of my own. Pep can like a player and I can still have an opinion about said player based on my observations. For instance, let’s hypothetically pretend those Sergi Roberto stories were true— do I have to suddenly ignore everything my eye has seen because “Pep rates him”?
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No one has said a straight swap.

You are just inventing a scenario and then getting angry about it.

And yeah, sure, have your own opinion but don't pretend like it fucking matters. The only thing that matters is if Pep likes a player and he's got very few wrong in 5 years at the club.

If Pep deciding he wants a player isnt enough for a City fan to be OK with it at this point, you're a child, more concerned with stats and reputations than the thing that matters - Guardiola thinking they will improve the team.
 
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