It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Why do you think that is then. Are we turning down bigger bids. Do we not know what we are doing and nobody bothers fixing it. Or do we operate in a different market to most teams?

we operate in a different market to most teams.

 

[mccity]

I think with the academy we're going for the supermarket approach (for lack of a better term). Nice and cheap, and readily available.

We're probably not making too much on any one player, but we consistently produce multiple players of great quality and by making them affordable I'd wager clubs are far more willing to buy one of our bunch than from other clubs. Which means that total profit is always high. Plus these kids get the chance to prove themselves instead of being trapped in the loan army.

 

[Legal Alien]

we seem to want to help players move if they are not happy , that involves selling them for a reasonable price , i like it that we are helping the young ones leave and the oldies stay till the end of their contracts , it is just the way we do business and we are doing ok

I know and i like that we care about our players, but then the money we spend and FFP gets thrown in our face and we're always having to explain ourselves.

It's okay i just hate the way we're treated.

 

[simon23]

I really thought he would make it with us.

We dont seem to like fast direct wingers at present

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

I know and i like that we care about our players, but then the money we spend and FFP gets thrown in our face and we're always having to explain ourselves.

It's okay i just hate the way we're treated.

the narrative will be vitriol, as long as the accounts stack up who cares.

 

[blueparrot]

We dont seem to like fast direct wingers at present

I’d guess the reason for that is, we know we play the majority of games against teams that sit deep and close down space that a fast direct winger would want to run into. Like all our targets or players we progress they are targeted or not for a reason.

 

[simon23]

I would always play Benardo in our midfield as I think we are a better team when he plays. He brings out the best in other players and makes us more balanced. I think we'll struggle to find a 3 in midfield that is more effective than one where he features. For that reason alone I would hate to see him leave, regardless of the price.

fully agree....think its a mistake letting him go...Id rather let Gundogan or Mahrez go as I dont think we will get as good a season out of either of them as last year...both (esp Mahrez) hadnt lived upto expectations before last year (less so Gundogan).....Bernardo has been hit and miss but he has more to offer in the future than either of those two and you can never accuse him of going missing, even when playing badly.

 

[skillman]

Basically, city are willing to wait until deadline day to save 30m and are preparing all the stuff to close the deal quickly once the fee is agreed?

Forgive me for being pessimistic but I’d be surprised if Levy let him go on deadline day. Unless they sort a replacement out prior - if they do then it’ll be obvious he’s on the move anyway.

Maybe I’m still burnt by Sanchez not coming because Arsenal were rejected by Lemar on the last day.

 

[simon23]

I’d guess the reason for that is, we know we play the majority of games against teams that sit deep and close down space that a fast direct winger would want to run into. Like all our targets or players we progress they are targeted or not for a reason.

weve played like that (or against that) since pep arrived....both Sane and Sterling did pretty well imho early doors.....

 

[discopop]

I know and i like that we care about our players, but then the money we spend and FFP gets thrown in our face and we're always having to explain ourselves.

It's okay i just hate the way we're treated.

We churn players you probably have never even known about who are on our books and probably never played a meaningful friendly never mind a first team game, Mooy, Harrison and Doug Luiz have been moved on for reasonable amounts at the time apart from maybe Harrison but an agreement is an agreement, then we have a dozen or two of other lads who were never going to make it but we have had decent fees for. It’s not all about selling what we consider prime players although the 34 million we got to offset the Cancelo deal was a startling amount.

As it stands in the last five years we have not been faced with letting a prime player go, Bernie is probably the first that wants out whom I would consider as being prime. Let’s see what happens.

 

[Ajm1985]

£52m would be good business for Bernardo - more than we paid for him and a lot more than his book value.

 

[LongsightM13]

We churn players you probably have never even known about who are on our books and probably never played a meaningful friendly never mind a first team game, Mooy, Harrison and Doug Luiz have been moved on for reasonable amounts at the time apart from maybe Harrison but an agreement is an agreement, then we have a dozen or two of other lads who were never going to make it but we have had decent fees for. It’s not all about selling what we consider prime players although the 34 million we got to offset the Cancelo deal was a startling amount.

As it stands in the last five years we have not been faced with letting a prime player go, Bernie is probably the first that wants out whom I would consider as being prime. Let’s see what happens.

Sane

 

[discopop]

Sane

Shit forgot about him, we blundered a little with that but still turned a profit and looking at the lad now he looks a shadow of the player we thought he was.

 

[blueparrot]

weve played like that (or against that) since pep arrived....both Sane and Sterling did pretty well imho early doors.....

No in that first season with Sane and Sterling, even Match of the day highlighted that move with Silva slipping them in and the cut across. If MOTD pundits and we could see it, so could opposition coaches. By season 2 full backs weren’t being pulled out , they were staying put doubling up with centre backs or midfielders. Packing the box.
That space was shut down and we had to adjust ,and keep adapting to changes opposition defences made, turned out alright though.

 

[LongsightM13]

Shit forgot about him, we blundered a little with that but still turned a profit and looking at the lad now he looks a shadow of the player we thought he was.

We don’t sell many that we want to keep tbh

 

[discopop]

We don’t sell many that we want to keep tbh

The Bernie wanting out I can sympathise with the lad had a torrid time with racist stuff and wants some sun, Sané looks like it was an inside job from Bayern after two years aided an abetted by his mum.

If we get what we paid for Bernie I consider it decent enough business considering everything.

 

[Maly]

Red on bacon
brown on sausage

Both red & brown with egg, bacon & sausage butty?

 

[blueparrot]

Both red & brown with egg, bacon & sausage butty?

Do you take a spare shirt when you eat it?

 

[simon23]

No in that first season with Sane and Sterling, even Match of the day highlighted that move with Silva slipping them in and the cut across. If MOTD pundits and we could see it, so could opposition coaches. By season 2 full backs weren’t being pulled out , they were staying put doubling up with centre backs or midfielders. Packing the box.
That space was shut down and we had to adjust ,and keep adapting to changes opposition defences made, turned out alright though.

but both Sane and sterling had pace to go either way and ran at people.....now Mahrez rarely does this, mostly opting to pass or run inside

That option of the David Silva pass is still there.....he just aint there to play it but its still available.....

Pep seems to not want direct wingers....I get this as they are in danger of losing possession more (something he use to berate Sane esp for constantly).
Our wide players are very one dimensional at present.....Mahrez, Grealish (if he plays there - i hope he doesnt and he gets a number 8 role)...even Sterling now he plays from the left mostly - he is the only one with any real pace in our forward line and coming inside nullifies that. Bernardo as he plays from the right cuts in all the time ....the inverted winger tactic is great but we dont adapt it ever

 

[Maly]

We are always buying high, because teams know they can ask big money but we, seemingly, give our players away when we sell.

When was the last time we got a decent fee for one of our players? because i can't remember.

Illic for £8m is the most recent sale & id say that was great money