Jack Grealish

[manimanc]

Villa are a bigger club than us. But Grealish would win more here, it's a short career and I think he'd be a breath of fresh air at City, hope we sign him.

 

[philjoneswho?]

I also wonder that and what the threshold is when you know better than the manager and can tell everybody who has a different opinion to you how wrong they are;-)

Post one I think

 

[jimharri]

Villa are a bigger club than us. But Grealish would win more here, it's a short career and I think he'd be a breath of fresh air at City, hope we sign him.

Behave yourself bud. Wumming/trolling is against the rules on here.

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

Villa are a bigger club than us. But Grealish would win more here, it's a short career and I think he'd be a breath of fresh air at City, hope we sign him.

Best belly laugh for a few days. Thank you.

 

[RayCTID]

We are the most sucessful club than Villa. The only competition they have done better than us is the European/Champions League, but they had won it when it was a League champions trophy and they won't win it again.

 

[jimharri]

We are the most sucessful club than Villa. The only competition they have done better than us is the European/Champions League, but they had won it when it was a League champions trophy.

It's been so long since they won the bloody thing, my clothes have been in, then out, of fashion countless times.

 

[metalblue]

Jesus, wasn't expecting to get as many backs up with that comment, wasn't intended as a wind up. We were big in the late 60s, early 70s then fell into oblivion in the grand scheme of things, as others benefited from the start of Premier League, including the juggernaut of Manchester United.

Villa were one of the EFL founder members with fantastic early success, then obviously won the European Cup nearly a century later. Go to the Midlands, it's a massive catchment area and if people don't support United or Liverpool, it's usually Villa. We have been so lucky with the investment we've been given, but without that we are a mid table top division team with about 30-40k hardcore fans (consistently higher crowds than Villa in the Championship, so fair play). The last 10 years has been great but we need to sustain that for the next 20-30 years to be considered up there with the Uniteds, Liverpools, Arsenals. Loads of fans coming through in Gen Z and younger, but it'll take these guys starting to come to games and bringing their kids too for us to grow as a genuine fanbase. Currently we wouldn't fill a stadium the swamp's size week in week out. They struggle due to their drop off in success, and they're a generation or two ahead of us in their establishment at the big table. History isn't everything, we are a fantastic club with a fantastic bunch of fans and we are here to stay; but we're not a massive club.

Back to Grealish, I agree he's stuck around at Villa and been a legend there. Most of their fans probably wouldn't begrudge him a move to a title contender.

No, course you weren’t ….

 

[citymad]

Back to Grealish, I agree he's stuck around at Villa and been a legend here. Most of us fans probably wouldn't begrudge him a move to a title contender.

Fixed.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Jesus, wasn't expecting to get as many backs up with that comment, wasn't intended as a wind up. We were big in the late 60s, early 70s then fell into oblivion in the grand scheme of things, as others benefited from the start of Premier League, including the juggernaut of Manchester United.

Villa were one of the EFL founder members with fantastic early success, then obviously won the European Cup nearly a century later. Go to the Midlands, it's a massive catchment area and if people don't support United or Liverpool, it's usually Villa. We have been so lucky with the investment we've been given, but without that we are a mid table top division team with about 30-40k hardcore fans (consistently higher crowds than Villa in the Championship, so fair play). The last 10 years has been great but we need to sustain that for the next 20-30 years to be considered up there with the Uniteds, Liverpools, Arsenals. Loads of fans coming through in Gen Z and younger, but it'll take these guys starting to come to games and bringing their kids too for us to grow as a genuine fanbase. Currently we wouldn't fill a stadium the swamp's size week in week out. They struggle due to their drop off in success, and they're a generation or two ahead of us in their establishment at the big table. History isn't everything, we are a fantastic club with a fantastic bunch of fans and we are here to stay; but we're not a massive club.

Back to Grealish, I agree he's stuck around at Villa and been a legend there. Most of their fans probably wouldn't begrudge him a move to a title contender.

City big in the 60’s and 70’s.....

1904 - FA Cup winners
1904 - League R/U
1921 - League R/U
1926 - FA Cup R/U
1933 - FA Cup R/U
1934 - FA Cup winners
1937 - League winners
1955 - FA Cup R/U
1956 - FA Cup winners
1968 - League winners
1969 - FA Cup winners
1970 - League Cup winners
1970 - ECWC winners
1974 - League Cup R/U
1976 - League Cup winners
1977 - League R/U
1981 - FA Cup R/U

Of the clubs we get habitually compared to by 15 year olds on Twitter, Villa I’ve already covered, Forest had won just 2 FA Cups in nearly 100 years of trying before Cloughie came along, Leeds won nothing whatsoever (literally nothing) until the Don Revie era, Chelsea managed just 1 League, 1 FA Cup and 1 LC before Matthew Harding lobbed his millions into the ring in the mid 90’s, and whilst Spurs had won more in total than us prior to 2008, they’d only ever won the league twice. Only Everton have a legitimate count over us in terms of silverware and years in the top flight and even that’s now a long redundant claim.

City meanwhile either won, or contested, major honours in every decade (bar the wars) and would have probably carried on doing so had Swales not absolutely crippled us financially for pretty much all of the 80’s and 90’s.

As I said before, ‘big club’ is a bullshit narrative to make the rags and dippers feel good about themselves, but beyond them and Arsenal, most of the claims of superiority over City are rooted in fuck all

 

[IcriedwhenTueartleft]

Ha ha, absolute comedy gold.

Villa have had larger average attendances than us in just 10 of the last 50 seasons, and they've won 1 x FA Cup in the last 100 years and 1 x league title in the last 110 years. Unfortunately, the latter led to them winning the European Cup into the bargain, which they never shut up about, although closer examination suggests that even Bristol City could have gone close had their route to the final comprised such luminaries as FC Valur, BFC Dynamo, Dynamo Kiev, Anderlecht and, er, that's it.

I hate all that arbitrary 'big club' guff as a matter of course, but if you're going to invoke it, then at least select a comparator whose hey-day wasn't when they had string for crossbars and goalkeepers in knickerbockers

They also got absolutely horsed in the final and scored from about the only chance they had....I watched highlights a while back and they were exceedingly fortunate to win...(as were Forest when they beat Hamburg 1-0)