Jack Grealish

[Jokithedruid]

Sheer speculation on my part, but if he was coming in, would that mean Raz is on his way out? I love the guy and he's been fantastic for us, but he's never been the most composed on the ball and for that reason probably doesn't fit as well in this team as he has in the past.

The only one rumored out is Jesus, that rumor was about Tottenham seeing him as a replacement for Kane.

 

[BillyShears]

It's shiny new toy syndrome.
No doubt he's a talented player but how high he's rated by some here is certainly baffling.
His best attribute is being able to dribble and carry the ball well, an attribute perfect for a counter-attacking side that exploits teams who commit. That and good passing ability, those are his standout qualities.

You then look at the current city team and you'll see those are qualities the likes of bernardo, mahrez, foden and even de-bruyne posses and i'd argue all are better than him at. Only difference is playing for this city side they don't get to showcase it much as positional discipline and systemic/patterns of play are more of a priority for a side that plays against sides packed in their area 99% of the time.

So he's not coming to help the team create any more chances than it already does with the players it has and the way it plays. You're then left with goals and it's almost laughable when his is compared to some of the even much maligned players here. His best goal-scoring season to date is 10 goals and unless some believe he has this unlocked potential to chip in with 15-20 goals a season as a winger it definitely hasn't been shown yet.

But somehow a player who's best with the ball at his feet but doesn't score much is suddenly going to improve a team with a bunch of players with similar attributes but also chip in with more goals. Honestly the only thing he could offer the team currently that it doesn't have is the ability to win cheap free-kicks, but even that may go down if he were to sign.

A top class striker should be and I'm sure is the main priority this summer, anything else like a grealish will just be a bonus to offer more depth and options to the squad but he certainly won't be this game-changing player to the side many think he will

That's a good post.

The big thing is Grealish's numbers are absolutely pony. Dogshit. For a guy who would cost, with a release clause, 75 million, and who has played Championship football inside that period, it's not the kind of deal that that I see as obviously improving us. As Guardiola has said, we've got loads of players who can score 10-15 a season. We've got loads of playmakers. We've got technical footballers in every part of the pitch. For Jack to even get into the best XI he's first got to move guys who have got insane numbers in them and have been delivering them for years.

Maybe I'm totally wrong and Pep is totally besotted with him - but for me he only comes if we have a surprise outgoing in the forward line or midfield.

 

[MaskedAguero10]

Hmm for what it's worth I think yesterday could be a glimpse of how Grealish could fit in. I think Pep might believe now Foden can play in midfield how he requires it and that leaves a space on the LW for Grealish to rotate with sterling. So it'd be something like this assuming we also get Kane.

Grealish/Sterling. Kane/Gabby. Mahrez/Torres


Gundo/Foden. KDB/Bernardo

Rodri/Fernandinho

I think that could be a really good midfield/attack with plenty of rotation.

 

[ADegenerate]

He has a release clause,allegedly.

And yes,you are right,the perfect player for us and one of few who could force his way into the starting 11.

Thought release clauses were illegal in the UK or is this new?

 

[Taylor]

It's shiny new toy syndrome.
No doubt he's a talented player but how high he's rated by some here is certainly baffling.
His best attribute is being able to dribble and carry the ball well, an attribute perfect for a counter-attacking side that exploits teams who commit. That and good passing ability, those are his standout qualities.

You then look at the current city team and you'll see those are qualities the likes of bernardo, mahrez, foden and even de-bruyne posses and i'd argue all are better than him at. Only difference is playing for this city side they don't get to showcase it much as positional discipline and systemic/patterns of play are more of a priority for a side that plays against sides packed in their area 99% of the time.

So he's not coming to help the team create any more chances than it already does with the players it has and the way it plays. You're then left with goals and it's almost laughable when his is compared to some of the even much maligned players here. His best goal-scoring season to date is 10 goals and unless some believe he has this unlocked potential to chip in with 15-20 goals a season as a winger it definitely hasn't been shown yet.

But somehow a player who's best with the ball at his feet but doesn't score much is suddenly going to improve a team with a bunch of players with similar attributes but also chip in with more goals. Honestly the only thing he could offer the team currently that it doesn't have is the ability to win cheap free-kicks, but even that may go down if he were to sign.

A top class striker should be and I'm sure is the main priority this summer, anything else like a grealish will just be a bonus to offer more depth and options to the squad but he certainly won't be this game-changing player to the side many think he will

I get what you are saying but 10+ goals for a midfielder is exactly what we should be looking for.

Take Gundogan for example:

Scored 13 league goals in 28 games arguably his best return.

His previous best before then 6 goals in 31 league games in 18/19.

Gundogan is 30 years old now, KDB similar. If we can add Grealish who's obviously younger and is second in the creativity department behind KDB then it's hardly a bad acquisition is it.

Granted he won't be everyone's cup of tea but the way the league works we are required to have home grown players. He falls into this category and would be playing with better players.

 

[David Silva]

That's a good post.

The big thing is Grealish's numbers are absolutely pony. Dogshit. For a guy who would cost, with a release clause, 75 million, and who has played Championship football inside that period, it's not the kind of deal that that I see as obviously improving us. As Guardiola has said, we've got loads of players who can score 10-15 a season. We've got loads of playmakers. We've got technical footballers in every part of the pitch. For Jack to even get into the best XI he's first got to move guys who have got insane numbers in them and have been delivering them for years.

Maybe I'm totally wrong and Pep is totally besotted with him - but for me he only comes if we have a surprise outgoing in the forward line or midfield.

Riyad Mahrez’s numbers are also “absolute pony” up to age 25 which was Leicester’s title winning year, also including a year spent in the Championship.

Think it is pretty harsh to say Grealish numbers this year are dog shit anyway. Ranked 3rd for chances created and 4th for assists having barely kicked a ball since feb, for a fairly limited side.

 

[domalino]

That's a good post.

The big thing is Grealish's numbers are absolutely pony. Dogshit. For a guy who would cost, with a release clause, 75 million, and who has played Championship football inside that period, it's not the kind of deal that that I see as obviously improving us. As Guardiola has said, we've got loads of players who can score 10-15 a season. We've got loads of playmakers. We've got technical footballers in every part of the pitch. For Jack to even get into the best XI he's first got to move guys who have got insane numbers in them and have been delivering them for years.

Maybe I'm totally wrong and Pep is totally besotted with him - but for me he only comes if we have a surprise outgoing in the forward line or midfield.

I said this 50 pages ago but I dont see what he offers that the squad doesn't already have in Bernardo, Mahrez, Sterling.

Everyone assumes he is going to take that spot in the side, but he doesn't put up the end product of Sterling, he doesn't have the workrate and selflessness of Bernardo and as technically gifted as he is...he's not better than Mahrez.

The only way I see Grealish in this side is as an 8 woth Gundogan moving to 6 and Fernandinho leaving.

 

[BillyShears]

Riyad Mahrez’s numbers are also “absolute pony” up to age 25 which was Leicester’s title winning year, also including a year spent in the Championship.

Think it is pretty harsh to say Grealish numbers this year are dog shit anyway. Ranked 3rd for chances created and 4th for assists having barely kicked a ball since feb, for a fairly limited side.

Grealish's number are shit. Telling me that Mahrez's numbers were shit until they weren't is funny, but doesn't change the fact that Grealish's are still shit.

Contextually speaking, go look at KDB's when we signed him from Wolfsburg. That's the levels you have to show IMO to get into this City team.

 

[Coatigan]

The only one rumored out is Jesus, that rumor was about Tottenham seeing him as a replacement for Kane.

That isn't a rumour though. That is just Bluemoon speculation, and unrealistic at that.

 

[Gabriel]

It's shiny new toy syndrome.
No doubt he's a talented player but how high he's rated by some here is certainly baffling.
His best attribute is being able to dribble and carry the ball well, an attribute perfect for a counter-attacking side that exploits teams who commit. That and good passing ability, those are his standout qualities.

You then look at the current city team and you'll see those are qualities the likes of bernardo, mahrez, foden and even de-bruyne posses and i'd argue all are better than him at. Only difference is playing for this city side they don't get to showcase it much as positional discipline and systemic/patterns of play are more of a priority for a side that plays against sides packed in their area 99% of the time.

So he's not coming to help the team create any more chances than it already does with the players it has and the way it plays. You're then left with goals and it's almost laughable when his is compared to some of the even much maligned players here. His best goal-scoring season to date is 10 goals and unless some believe he has this unlocked potential to chip in with 15-20 goals a season as a winger it definitely hasn't been shown yet.

But somehow a player who's best with the ball at his feet but doesn't score much is suddenly going to improve a team with a bunch of players with similar attributes but also chip in with more goals. Honestly the only thing he could offer the team currently that it doesn't have is the ability to win cheap free-kicks, but even that may go down if he were to sign.

A top class striker should be and I'm sure is the main priority this summer, anything else like a grealish will just be a bonus to offer more depth and options to the squad but he certainly won't be this game-changing player to the side many think he will

As I’ve pointed out before in this regard, you could have applied the same logic and arguments to our signing of Mahrez in 2018. I’ll eat what’s put on my plate, so it doesn’t bother me who we sign, but when we look at our past signing behaviour, Grealish fits the pattern more than a 100 million plus striker.