Fair enough, personally I´m not a De Jong fan specially when he´s paired up with Yaya would rather see him along side Barry with Yaya pushing up.blade66 said:nehe11 said:Oh ffs are you serious? He misplaced one pass!!!! Silva missed a number of chances so did Dzeko and Balotelli. Rodwell was ok, yes he can improve alot so can De Jong and Milner but don´t call him a "big money error" because of one mistake, giive the lad a chance, I´m happy that he got to start will surely give him confidence and he´ll improve.blade66 said:I know he's young...I know he's only been with the squad a few days and believe me I really want him to be a success ,as I do all City signings....but to me he looked out of his depth...he couldn't cement his place in the Everton line up afterall...so why play him when you've got a world class player sitting on the bench who plays in that posistion....dangerous stuff from Mancini and it nearly cost us a game that we shoulda walked....I hope he doesn't go down in history as yet another City big money error....I will be stunned if he starts against Liverpool.
Personally I´m very happy with this signing, Young hungry English player who can play in different positions, wasen´t to expensive and he has certaintly improven our squad.
I hope I'm wrong....I just don't see him providing the composure and stability Barry brings to the team, and I'm a big De Jong fan,so can't see why he was risked....3 points is 3 points ,as important in the first game of the season as the last.....and alright he didn't look his best yesterday but I don't think David Silva has anything to prove regarding his quality....As I said I want him to be a success I just have my doubts.
You know I'm willing to accept that my judgement of him might be too harsh. Fine. Okay. But this is starting to border on the ridiculous.Why Always Ste said:Also, was it really a Rodwell fault or a positioning issue of the two city players (Zabaleta, ??) who were very close to the ball being passed to them, and were slow in reacting to the ball.
He passed it forward :-)
People fail to acknowledge the pass was made near to the opponents own box, alot of ball movement went ahead after this pass, with opportunities from the whole team to stop the goal threat.
alera said:Talking to people at the game no one could understand why he started when he had no pre season with us and we had De Jong and Milner on the bench. Both much much better players.
Mancini making another point ? Just like putting Savic on the bench / playing him in the charity shield ?
The only other consideration is De Jong is being sold and Milner is carrying an injury.
It was a strange selection in any event and didnt do the player any favours.
taconinja said:You know I'm willing to accept that my judgement of him might be too harsh. Fine. Okay. But this is starting to border on the ridiculous.Why Always Ste said:Also, was it really a Rodwell fault or a positioning issue of the two city players (Zabaleta, ??) who were very close to the ball being passed to them, and were slow in reacting to the ball.
He passed it forward :-)
People fail to acknowledge the pass was made near to the opponents own box, alot of ball movement went ahead after this pass, with opportunities from the whole team to stop the goal threat.
How many other players' fault does his error need to be attributed to? I've heard Yaya blamed for not being more defensive-minded and I've heard Kompany and Lescott blamed for not clearing it better and now it's down to other City players not having the ability to see the future and know he was going to fluff a simple pass? He was playing the defensive midfielder role. He also was playing in a position we often ask to safeguard on corners in case the opposition gets it. Barry's done it. Clichy's done it. Rodwell's initial response was correct. He gathered the cleared corner and went to pass it back in. He made a horrible error on the pass. That's the long and short of it.
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:alera said:Talking to people at the game no one could understand why he started when he had no pre season with us and we had De Jong and Milner on the bench. Both much much better players.
Mancini making another point ? Just like putting Savic on the bench / playing him in the charity shield ?
The only other consideration is De Jong is being sold and Milner is carrying an injury.
It was a strange selection in any event and didnt do the player any favours.
It was odd. If I were Milner/de Jong after the performncs they put in against Chelsea last week I would have been pissed off.
I think it we had taken our chances it would indeed have been a no-lose scenario. At 3-0 as we should have been, the squad would have dropped back and defended as a unit and looked to counter.Millwallawayveteran1988 said:taconinja said:You know I'm willing to accept that my judgement of him might be too harsh. Fine. Okay. But this is starting to border on the ridiculous.Why Always Ste said:Also, was it really a Rodwell fault or a positioning issue of the two city players (Zabaleta, ??) who were very close to the ball being passed to them, and were slow in reacting to the ball.
He passed it forward :-)
People fail to acknowledge the pass was made near to the opponents own box, alot of ball movement went ahead after this pass, with opportunities from the whole team to stop the goal threat.
How many other players' fault does his error need to be attributed to? I've heard Yaya blamed for not being more defensive-minded and I've heard Kompany and Lescott blamed for not clearing it better and now it's down to other City players not having the ability to see the future and know he was going to fluff a simple pass? He was playing the defensive midfielder role. He also was playing in a position we often ask to safeguard on corners in case the opposition gets it. Barry's done it. Clichy's done it. Rodwell's initial response was correct. He gathered the cleared corner and went to pass it back in. He made a horrible error on the pass. That's the long and short of it.
Indeed! It seems fans have gone Into a must defend Rodwell mode.....the fact he wasn't a regular starter at everton tells me It will be a year before he is anywhere near ready for regular starts for us.
He is a signing for the future not for now but Mancini probably underestimated the opposition and thought it was a no lose situation!