TheThirdDeano
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Makes the obsession with hammering us with negativity about it even weirderHe came from Watford's academy. We only put a coat of paint on the lad.
Makes the obsession with hammering us with negativity about it even weirderHe came from Watford's academy. We only put a coat of paint on the lad.
Im glad you can make your own mind up about his ability.and we both agree its media hype re 100m etcTbh I’ve not followed the thread so no I’ve not seen anything against him.
I’d rather not either I can make my own mind up by watching the matches he has played in....
Is he some supersonic amazeball £100m+ player that is being portrayed by the UK media?
No
Is he a young emerging talent who can go a long bloody way in this game if it goes right for him?
Yes of course.
Am I bitter he left for Dortmund?
No
Would I rather have Mahrez or him in our squad? (at the present time at least) Mahrez all day long.
In many ways..my favourite ever City player.so few would have seen the talent he showed for City.before the days of every match bring tekevised,and playing for City in the lower division.i..somehow.missed one of his greatest games for us..vWatford (saw Forest at Maine rd )in the lc run under Machin.i still have the independent newspaper cuttings from the two matches.neither watford or forest knew what had hit them that night..The graceful tall central midfielder running the first division teams defence ragged ,with the ball tied to his foot breaking from midfield and running straight at the exposed defence...think phil foden in the charity sheild v chelsea...those sorts of midfield players are not produced very often....not to mention his performances in every outfield posistion, for City,in his short career....I saw Lakey play, so sad he was destined for the top.
PSG is quoted and i find it weird.
I mean, the few times i saw him, his talent was obvious and i wouldn't mind him at Paris at all. The reported fee is a problem though for PSG that is cash-strapped with FFP in their arse and that need to reinforce other areas of the pitch aswell. We were in for de Jong at around 75 M, that means we have identified that position to be crucial and that massive investment will be needed there. Don't see how we could be in for a 100 M+ english winger. I add the english part because that will make his value raise when a club like United is interested in.
Seems a non story on the part of PSG. Interested in him, yes. All clubs like talent. Ready to fork out that stupendous fee is another matter.
I had no real clue as to his ability before he left; others hv watched him in our youth teams and i understand he was highly rated..
I just see him as someone brave enough to trust his ability ,get 1st team football and take a gamble.
A footballers career can be so short..who wants to wait??
..i,m so glad City were skint in the late 80s snd i was able to watch,live,Paul Lake..play in our first team at right back(Shrewsbury Town at home) left back ,centre half ,, central midfield. ,left midfield(utd5-1) right midfield ,and centre forward (everton away LC QF)..Paul Lake coming thru now would have to sit on the bench watching our expensive imports ....If i had Lakes ability...i,d have been off...his career cut short thru injury...i,m proud to say i saw him play.
A modern day Paul Lake would have no chance at City.and thats quite sad..purely my opinion.
Re Sancho,i dispise the media hype.. ,but can only say "well done" for having the balls to say yes to Dortmund.in the same way he had the confidence to leave Watford for City.Good luck to the lad.
Im glad you can make your own mind up about his ability.and we both agree its media hype re 100m etc
But the lad,imo,has to be credited ,for making his own mind up....and choosing regular 1st team football,inc champions league..away from City.
There were no guarantees of that here.none at all.Just looking at his situation,thru none blue tinted glasses...i do wish him all the best,without any bitterness...a young lad has achieved first team football,champions league footy,and is now a full international. Whats not to like?
You make your own mind up on his talent.The player made his own.your an observer.Sancho is the player.
I agree with pretty much everything you said but in today's world where players have more power/control thanks to agents. The bottom line is Sancho was never going to get the amount of game time here that maybe he wanted. He was never going to get past Sane or Sterling in the pecking order. There is obviously a niche in German football for young British talent who maybe can't get the game time they crave over here. (Reece Oxford being on loan at Augsburg and Hudson-Odoi being linked with Bayern are other examples). I can't really see a change to that anytime soon. Also, I think that young players now don't get giving the opportunity to progress at a steady pace thanks to the media and agents. As soon as a young player has a bit of an impact on the pitch the media are leaping praise and attention on them and in return that just fuels the player's egos and their agent's demands.Sancho is a stellar talent but that often does not make a future world-class player. Though we would all like to see Phil gaining more competitive minutes, young players should be nurtured without the gaze of the world's media. They should also really have to earn their minutes ahead of world-class players so they remain humble and grateful. It may sound a little old-fashioned in today's social media age, but when we think of the most talented young players, those who haven't quite made it, or whose careers burned out quicker than they should, often had 'too much too soon'.
I agree with pretty much everything you said but in today's world where players have more power/control thanks to agents. The bottom line is Sancho was never going to get the amount of game time here that maybe he wanted. He was never going to get past Sane or Sterling in the pecking order. There is obviously a niche in German football for young British talent who maybe can't get the game time they crave over here. (Reece Oxford being on loan at Augsburg and Hudson-Odoi being linked with Bayern are other examples). I can't really see a change to that anytime soon. Also, I think that young players now don't get giving the opportunity to progress at a steady pace thanks to the media and agents. As soon as a young player has a bit of an impact on the pitch the media are leaping praise and attention on them and in return that just fuels the player's egos and their agent's demands.
He's an absolutely fantastic young player. We don't have to slag him off just because he left us; he joined in 2015 and left in 2017. That being said, I really wouldn't be that upset if United splashed out £100m+ on him. Imagine the pressure of being one of the first of this generation going abroad and finding great success, to return and be the 19-year old £100m man. Any poor performance and he'll get slated in the media. I personally hope he doesn't join United this summer for his own sake, not ours. He could do with another couple seasons at Dortmund - then at 21 decide if he wants to come back to England or if he has performed well enough to gain interest from the other top European sides.
If he joined the rags? Do you honestly believe that?
History would be instantly re-written and he'd have been born into the Rag's academy set up and suckled at Giggsy's tit.
What's our cut of the transfer fee if he goes to the rags ?
Do we have a buy back clause?
Still in the race for the German title then...and last 16 champions league experience for a youngster,which has undoubtedly helped propell him into the england squad. Didnt harm Raheem at Liverpool....His career is developing nicely,imo.Weather he can maintain his intial career burst is another matter,but thats football,and every player has the pressure (enjoyment?) of " your only as good as your last game" ..every professional in the world; Thats Football.Not a great week. Out of the CL and down to 2nd in the League.
MEN seems to think we have a 15% sell on clause. Of course that could just be newspaper speculation.No just a first refusal which we wont bother with.