Well now you know he came from Chelsea, in the U23 games we played against them last season he was probably their most impressive player, but not close to the likes of Delap, McAtee, Doyle etc. So I could absolutely understand if them guys are sitting at city thinking “well I’m better than, or at least as good as, Livramento so why should I sit around and wait in the EDS”. The obvious counter argument is Foden, but Foden was different. I think we need a Palmer or McAtee to break through to provide a different aspect to Foden who is and was a once in a generation talent.