James Milner

[Thenumber1blue]

Mate, you're just waitin for someone to say somethin positive about James Milner on here, or even Müller for that matter; then you pounce! All I've done here is praise them both. He is a grafter. Maldeika is Bayern through and through and she's agreeing with me on this. Do one with your intelligence shite. I've had it all before on here. It's all down to GRAFT and him having the quality around him. FFS! Write whatever bollox you like now, I won't be coming back to this thread.

This bit in bold is why England will probably never win a World Cup again. It's why there's so few English players play in the PL now. It's why the standard of our kids is so far behind the rest of Europe. It's why the standard of football on a Sunday morning is so appalling.

Italy, Spain, Holland, Germany, Brazil, Argentina all value technique and intelligence over graft, it's not done their development any harm while English players lag decades behind. Ignorance is bliss for some though I guess.

On another note, I think Milner will probably start tonight, and I expect him to have a very good game. He always plays well against the rags.

Right, okay. I've gone and done it. Like a right cnut, I've come back to this thread, when I said I wouldn't.
My dear fellow Blue, if you'd take the time to read some of my past posts, or better still, the threads I've started on the state of grass roots football in the UK, or my support for Wythenshawe Amateurs you'd see that you have misinterpreted everything I've said. I coach in Germany, I've coached kids that have ( to my sheer and utter delight) gone on to play for professional clubs in Germany. What you're saying above, is absolutely and utterly bang on the fookin money. There ya go, we are actually on the same wave length. My point about Thomas Müller is.....as I've pointed out, he is an outstanding player, an unbelievable talent. You'll never see him shy out of a challenge. He'll always run his twattin Salford Docks off for the shirt, badge, club and country. His knowledge of the game, his movement off the ball and an eye for goal. All this adds up to an outstanding player, not skillful, but he doesn't need that in his game; the others do that for him. All the people I speak to here, agree with all this, beit Bayern fans, football coaches, or general enthusiasts. Me saying he's the hod carrier of the team, is not meant in any negative way. He'll always give 110%, as will James Milner. I was defending Milner, as I thought you were underrating him big style. I stayed calm in my posts, but you kept coming back with your comments and I'm thinkin, "what is this guy on? I'm praising both and yet still, everything I say is bollox." That's what pissed me off, that's why I got anti. My apologies for that.

I've been saying this for years,fuckin terms like big kick and jockey make me piss !

 

[Aguero_Element]

just what we needed tonight

 

[pudge]

As good as the pass from David was, the run and take from Jimmy before the 3rd were briliant imo

No fuss from jimmy, whether he starts or gets 20 mins like tonight he gets stuck in and involved.

 

[Ticket For Schalke]

Invaluable.

 

[burning blue soul]

yet another assist by jimmy. well done lad.

 

[BigOscar]

yet another assist by jimmy. well done lad.

Not sure deflected crosses count as assists tbh.

What I like about Milner, is that he makes runs. We have so many passers, who can see a run and pick out the pass, but we don't really have many players who actually make those runs. It's the same with Pedro at Barca and Muller at Bayern, they are the one's who make the runs for the passers to find, otherwise it's the fullbacks. When Aguero isn't playing, then it's really only Milner, Zaba and Kolarov who consistently make runs off the ball.

Ideally, I'd like to see us with someone who makes those runs from midfield/winger and is a bit more of a direct threat than Milner, like Pedro and Muller are, for us to really push on to that top level.

 

[SwiftBlue]

Milner not technical? Don't know what you're on about ;)

 

[samharris]

Love Jimmy..

 

[Shaelumstash]

Mate, you're just waitin for someone to say somethin positive about James Milner on here, or even Müller for that matter; then you pounce! All I've done here is praise them both. He is a grafter. Maldeika is Bayern through and through and she's agreeing with me on this. Do one with your intelligence shite. I've had it all before on here. It's all down to GRAFT and him having the quality around him. FFS! Write whatever bollox you like now, I won't be coming back to this thread.

This bit in bold is why England will probably never win a World Cup again. It's why there's so few English players play in the PL now. It's why the standard of our kids is so far behind the rest of Europe. It's why the standard of football on a Sunday morning is so appalling.

Italy, Spain, Holland, Germany, Brazil, Argentina all value technique and intelligence over graft, it's not done their development any harm while English players lag decades behind. Ignorance is bliss for some though I guess.

On another note, I think Milner will probably start tonight, and I expect him to have a very good game. He always plays well against the rags.

Right, okay. I've gone and done it. Like a right cnut, I've come back to this thread, when I said I wouldn't.
My dear fellow Blue, if you'd take the time to read some of my past posts, or better still, the threads I've started on the state of grass roots football in the UK, or my support for Wythenshawe Amateurs you'd see that you have misinterpreted everything I've said. I coach in Germany, I've coached kids that have ( to my sheer and utter delight) gone on to play for professional clubs in Germany. What you're saying above, is absolutely and utterly bang on the fookin money. There ya go, we are actually on the same wave length. My point about Thomas Müller is.....as I've pointed out, he is an outstanding player, an unbelievable talent. You'll never see him shy out of a challenge. He'll always run his twattin Salford Docks off for the shirt, badge, club and country. His knowledge of the game, his movement off the ball and an eye for goal. All this adds up to an outstanding player, not skillful, but he doesn't need that in his game; the others do that for him. All the people I speak to here, agree with all this, beit Bayern fans, football coaches, or general enthusiasts. Me saying he's the hod carrier of the team, is not meant in any negative way. He'll always give 110%, as will James Milner. I was defending Milner, as I thought you were underrating him big style. I stayed calm in my posts, but you kept coming back with your comments and I'm thinkin, "what is this guy on? I'm praising both and yet still, everything I say is bollox." That's what pissed me off, that's why I got anti. My apologies for that.

I appreciate the post mate, we are obviously on the same page in terms of what makes a good player, and what holds us back with the British mentality.

To be totally honest you must have seen a lot more of Muller than me, so I accept your judgement on him. But from what I've seen I thought his technique and football brain was light years ahead of Milner.

Whether that's me overrating Muller, or you overrating Milner is down to opinion I guess.

But for the record, I do rate Milner. I think he's a great squad player for us, as another poster said, probably the best number 12 in the league.

Personally though, I don't think he's quick enough at decision making when in centre mid. And I don't think he's technically a patch on Silva or Nasri. That's why I'd call him a squad player, because I don't think he's quite up to the standard or our 4 starting midfielders. That's no disgrace though, they are 4 of the best midfielders in Europe.

 

[BlueTG]

yet another assist by jimmy. well done lad.

Not sure deflected crosses count as assists tbh.

What I like about Milner, is that he makes runs. We have so many passers, who can see a run and pick out the pass, but we don't really have many players who actually make those runs. It's the same with Pedro at Barca and Muller at Bayern, they are the one's who make the runs for the passers to find, otherwise it's the fullbacks. When Aguero isn't playing, then it's really only Milner, Zaba and Kolarov who consistently make runs off the ball.

Ideally, I'd like to see us with someone who makes those runs from midfield/winger and is a bit more of a direct threat than Milner, like Pedro and Muller are, for us to really push on to that top level.

It does, as does a shot that is saved by the keeper and tapped in by another player.