James Milner

A useful squad player to have but not quite good enough to become a regular.
 
BigOscar said:
He needs much more space than our technically better players, against better side you get that as they actually attack you, but against teams sitting back he just doesn't look good enough at all. All his best games have been against the better sides, I can't recall too many good performances against lesser sides. Great for pressing other teams defenders on the ball, great for breaks or for making runs in behind fullbacks, but if the space isn't there then he really struggles

Can you give an example other than yesterday of a bad game he's had? I can't think of one Generally he is very solid and on the right occasion, he is outstanding.
 
BigOscar said:
He needs much more space than our technically better players, against better side you get that as they actually attack you, but against teams sitting back he just doesn't look good enough at all. All his best games have been against the better sides, I can't recall too many good performances against lesser sides. Great for pressing other teams defenders on the ball, great for breaks or for making runs in behind fullbacks, but if the space isn't there then he really struggles

Is he our Park Ji-Sung/Dirk Kuyt then?
 
lasereyes said:
BigOscar said:
He needs much more space than our technically better players, against better side you get that as they actually attack you, but against teams sitting back he just doesn't look good enough at all. All his best games have been against the better sides, I can't recall too many good performances against lesser sides. Great for pressing other teams defenders on the ball, great for breaks or for making runs in behind fullbacks, but if the space isn't there then he really struggles

Can you give an example other than yesterday of a bad game he's had? I can't think of one Generally he is very solid and on the right occasion, he is outstanding.
Before the second Bayern game, pretty much every game he played this season was awful. Can't remember specifics, but there were some awful cup games from him. He seemed to turn a corner after the Bayern game and improved hugely, until the Norwich game where he was poor again and disrupted the entire team (although he was in his supposed "best position" CM in that game) All the good memories I have of him have been against good teams
 
BigOscar said:
He needs much more space than our technically better players, against better side you get that as they actually attack you, but against teams sitting back he just doesn't look good enough at all. All his best games have been against the better sides, I can't recall too many good performances against lesser sides. Great for pressing other teams defenders on the ball, great for breaks or for making runs in behind fullbacks, but if the space isn't there then he really struggles

This is the most insightful post on the thread. My pal said exactly the sane thing to me during the game last night, and you're both absolutely bang on.
 
Shaelumstash said:
BigOscar said:
He needs much more space than our technically better players, against better side you get that as they actually attack you, but against teams sitting back he just doesn't look good enough at all. All his best games have been against the better sides, I can't recall too many good performances against lesser sides. Great for pressing other teams defenders on the ball, great for breaks or for making runs in behind fullbacks, but if the space isn't there then he really struggles

This is the most insightful post on the thread. My pal said exactly the sane thing to me during the game last night, and you're both absolutely bang on.

Who are these 'technically better players' then?
 
stonerblue said:
Shaelumstash said:
BigOscar said:
He needs much more space than our technically better players, against better side you get that as they actually attack you, but against teams sitting back he just doesn't look good enough at all. All his best games have been against the better sides, I can't recall too many good performances against lesser sides. Great for pressing other teams defenders on the ball, great for breaks or for making runs in behind fullbacks, but if the space isn't there then he really struggles

This is the most insightful post on the thread. My pal said exactly the sane thing to me during the game last night, and you're both absolutely bang on.

Who are these 'technically better players' then?

Is that a serious question?
 
Jimmy is an excellent player but is far more effective when we play a quicker game. Though Samir is a fantastic retainer of possession, his slight negativity stalls the play and nullifies the benefit of Jimmy's powerful, off the ball running. Silva is more able to pick out Jimmy's runs and Jimmy will always look better with Silva in the team, especially when he is playing out wide.
 
stonerblue said:
Shaelumstash said:
BigOscar said:
He needs much more space than our technically better players, against better side you get that as they actually attack you, but against teams sitting back he just doesn't look good enough at all. All his best games have been against the better sides, I can't recall too many good performances against lesser sides. Great for pressing other teams defenders on the ball, great for breaks or for making runs in behind fullbacks, but if the space isn't there then he really struggles

This is the most insightful post on the thread. My pal said exactly the sane thing to me during the game last night, and you're both absolutely bang on.

Who are these 'technically better players' then?

Take a wild guess.
 
One of our players who gives the ball a way with too much regularity.

Our most culpable players for giving the ball away for absolutely no reason, in no particular order are

milner
lescott
kolarov
clichy
dzeko
richards

navas is borderline
 
Esteban de la Sexface said:
One of our players who gives the ball a way with too much regularity.

Our most culpable players for giving the ball away for absolutely no reason, in no particular order are

milner
lescott
kolarov
clichy
dzeko
richards

navas is borderline

Lescott has officially got in excess of 80% completion pass.
Richards hasn't played!!
 
skybluepete said:
Esteban de la Sexface said:
One of our players who gives the ball a way with too much regularity.

Our most culpable players for giving the ball away for absolutely no reason, in no particular order are

milner
lescott
kolarov
clichy
dzeko
richards

navas is borderline

Lescott has officially got in excess of 80% completion pass.
Richards hasn't played!!

RIchards has played for nearly 10 years. Lescott gives the ball away for no reason at times. 60% of that 80% are passed back to Hart.

I'm talking about giving the ball away for no reason, due to mistakes, lake of concentration or plain lack of skill. These are the ones in my opinion that do it too much.
 
Esteban de la Sexface said:
One of our players who gives the ball a way with too much regularity.

Our most culpable players for giving the ball away for absolutely no reason, in no particular order are

milner
lescott
kolarov
clichy
dzeko
richards

navas is borderline

Navas doesn't give it away that much. He receives it on the wing, usually under pressure, turns his marker and runs like fuck back into our half before passing it to Joe Hart. Repeat ad nauseam.

I like Milner, no denying he had an absolute stinker against Sunderland. I can't recall a City player giving the ball away so much in years. He's better than that performance though. He was awesome in Munich, so he can play against the big sides. I'd keep him.
 
stony said:
Esteban de la Sexface said:
One of our players who gives the ball a way with too much regularity.

Our most culpable players for giving the ball away for absolutely no reason, in no particular order are

milner
lescott
kolarov
clichy
dzeko
richards

navas is borderline

Navas doesn't give it away that much. He receives it on the wing, usually under pressure, turns his marker and runs like fuck back into our half before passing it to Joe Hart. Repeat ad nauseam.

I like Milner, no denying he had an absolute stinker against Sunderland. I can't recall a City player giving the ball away so much in years. He's better than that performance though. He was awesome in Munich, so he can play against the big sides. I'd keep him.

I like him too stones.
Navas pisses me off no end.. he kills all the space on the right by cutting into the middle every time.. I've lost count of the amount of times I've screamed "run the fucking other way"

Milner is a fantastic squad player. And he has occasional moments of brilliance. But he has a concentration problem when we are dominating possession. He just isn't that type of player.
 
Esteban de la Sexface said:
One of our players who gives the ball a way with too much regularity.

Our most culpable players for giving the ball away for absolutely no reason, in no particular order are

milner
lescott
kolarov
clichy
dzeko
richards

navas is borderline


You can now add Negredo to that list.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Esteban de la Sexface said:
One of our players who gives the ball a way with too much regularity.

Our most culpable players for giving the ball away for absolutely no reason, in no particular order are

milner
lescott
kolarov
clichy
dzeko
richards

navas is borderline


You can now add Negredo to that list.

he keeps it more often than not. The ones he gives away are 50-50. Headers and challenges. He can receive the ball the majority of the time and recycle it. The ones I've mentioned cannot, on occasion.
 
Esteban de la Sexface said:
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Esteban de la Sexface said:
One of our players who gives the ball a way with too much regularity.

Our most culpable players for giving the ball away for absolutely no reason, in no particular order are

milner
lescott
kolarov
clichy
dzeko
richards

navas is borderline


You can now add Negredo to that list.

he keeps it more often than not. The ones he gives away are 50-50. Headers and challenges. He can receive the ball the majority of the time and recycle it. The ones I've mentioned cannot, on occasion.

He gave it away more than anyone on Wednesday.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Esteban de la Sexface said:
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
You can now add Negredo to that list.

he keeps it more often than not. The ones he gives away are 50-50. Headers and challenges. He can receive the ball the majority of the time and recycle it. The ones I've mentioned cannot, on occasion.

He gave it away more than anyone on Wednesday.

Milner did.

I love football - we both watched the same game, yet I though Negredo was actually ok. Sergio gave it away more than Negredo I thought.

At one stage Sergio just booted it into touch and stood there perplexed! :)
 
Milner had a remarkably bad performance against Sunderland, it's hard to compare anyone else in that match to him on pretty much any topic, it may have been the worst match he's played in our shirt.

He's a good player, though. I guess Navas is hurt, but that was one of those matches where the manager probably needed to sub him for the good of the player.
 
teddykgb said:
Milner had a remarkably bad performance against Sunderland, it's hard to compare anyone else in that match to him on pretty much any topic, it may have been the worst match he's played in our shirt.

He's a good player, though. I guess Navas is hurt, but that was one of those matches where the manager probably needed to sub him for the good of the player.

I didn't get to watch the match against Sunderland (real life a bitch) so can you tell me where did Milner play ?
 

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