Jamie Foxx Racist Comment

[Anonymous]

it's not telling at all. there are plenty of black, white, yellow mc's who could eat him for breakfast if it was a straightforward matter of who has the most 'irony and wit', although he is a talented boy in his own regard. Truth about Eminem is he has the same appeal to whiney teenagers as fred durst, and that sells a LOT of records. 50cent appeals to a white teenage market eager for an element of 'danger' that makes their parents uncomfortable. he's a lousy bloody MC. rap music is tied in knots because of it's obsession with the white teenage target market, and both artists are symptomatic of this extreme commerciality, not the underlying musical culture, or any racially identifiable culture you seem to think they 'represent'.

Eminem is popular as he's white and appeals to white teens desperate for a white face amongst all the black faces they own on their ipods. I wouldn't wipe my arse with Eminem, he's fucking awful, takes himself very seriously and has never really recovered from having Elton Johns cock in his mouth.

It is racial, without a doubt. There will never be a white 50 cent or a black Eminem. It isn't allowed.

White kids are encouraged to kill themselves via terrible US 'rock' and rap.

Black kids are encouraged to kill each other via 'hip hop'

There are lots of black rappers who don't use the guns, drugs, violence, sex and all that gangsta shit to sell records.

 

[Bigga]

Not sure I hear an argument being flushed myself.
Black music has always been appropriated by whitey,diluted down to within an inch of its creative life and repackaged to a white audience far more receptive to an ersazt version of blues,jazz,reggae,soul, rap or whatever,than the authentic real deal.
Whether this is due to underlying racism,(in my opinion a resounding yes),or not is hardly the point - the record industry has never got poor by misrepresenting black music of almost every genre you can name.
My point being that "black" music has always been the biggest-selling music of any era you care to name.
Just,sadly,the biggest earners and highest profile acts have been embarrassing white pastiches of the real thing.
For every Louis Armstrong,a Glenn Miller,for every Muddy Waters an Eric Clapton,for every Black Uhuru a UB40,for every Al Green a Paul Young,for every Professor Griff a Vanilla Ice,ad fucking nauseum.
And with rap its even worse - "act more black - sell downloads,screw that artistic creativity - just drone on about Glocks and Crystal and Rock - y'know,street stuff."
The sad thing is,its always been this way,and probably always will.
Because thats the way the game is played.

And that is basically that!

Elvis, Beatles, Stones...the list goes on and on and on which is why when people moan about no 'MOWO' awards I can't help but be slightly miffed at their stupidity and I've no clue as to why we can't at least acknowledge the black races contribution to culture without seeing it as being a cop out or 'racist'.

It is at this point you guys simply echo WHY there has been a need for the MOBO Awards and I point I made earlier, but not in as much depth.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

it's not telling at all. there are plenty of black, white, yellow mc's who could eat him for breakfast if it was a straightforward matter of who has the most 'irony and wit', although he is a talented boy in his own regard. Truth about Eminem is he has the same appeal to whiney teenagers as fred durst, and that sells a LOT of records. 50cent appeals to a white teenage market eager for an element of 'danger' that makes their parents uncomfortable. he's a lousy bloody MC. rap music is tied in knots because of it's obsession with the white teenage target market, and both artists are symptomatic of this extreme commerciality, not the underlying musical culture, or any racially identifiable culture you seem to think they 'represent'.

Eminem is popular as he's white and appeals to white teens desperate for a white face amongst all the black faces they own on their ipods. I wouldn't wipe my arse with Eminem, he's fucking awful, takes himself very seriously and has never really recovered from having Elton Johns cock in his mouth.

It is racial, without a doubt. There will never be a white 50 cent or a black Eminem. It isn't allowed.

White kids are encouraged to kill themselves via terrible US 'rock' and rap.

Black kids are encouraged to kill each other via 'hip hop'

There are lots of black rappers who don't use the guns, drugs, violence, sex and all that gangsta shit to sell records.

Yeah but there's selling records and there's selling records and to really sell you have to appease and play to the white man, it really is that simple.

Record sales in the US are much bigger than over here anyway and a black artist can sell records only in his 'hood' and still go gold, I'm talking about the megastars not the self sufficient people.

 

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Sometimes the likes of Dizzee Rascal will break through who has a modicum of credibility

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[Bigga]

it's not telling at all. there are plenty of black, white, yellow mc's who could eat him for breakfast if it was a straightforward matter of who has the most 'irony and wit', although he is a talented boy in his own regard. Truth about Eminem is he has the same appeal to whiney teenagers as fred durst, and that sells a LOT of records. 50cent appeals to a white teenage market eager for an element of 'danger' that makes their parents uncomfortable. he's a lousy bloody MC. rap music is tied in knots because of it's obsession with the white teenage target market, and both artists are symptomatic of this extreme commerciality, not the underlying musical culture, or any racially identifiable culture you seem to think they 'represent'.

Eminem is popular as he's white and appeals to white teens desperate for a white face amongst all the black faces they own on their ipods. I wouldn't wipe my arse with Eminem, he's fucking awful, takes himself very seriously and has never really recovered from having Elton Johns cock in his mouth.

It is racial, without a doubt. There will never be a white 50 cent or a black Eminem. It isn't allowed.

White kids are encouraged to kill themselves via terrible US 'rock' and rap.

Black kids are encouraged to kill each other via 'hip hop'

There are lots of black rappers who don't use the guns, drugs, violence, sex and all that gangsta shit to sell records.

Yeah but there's selling records and there's selling records and to really sell you have to appease and play to the white man, it really is that simple.

Record sales in the US are much bigger than over here anyway and a black artist can sell records only in his 'hood' and still go gold, I'm talking about the megastars not the self sufficient people.

Masta P was a PRIME example of that before he went bankrupt and he managed to be a megastar that wasn't globally known!

How he went bankrupt, I will never know...

 

[bizzbo]

ok TMQ, I can't really make out the argument here that clearly, so sorry if i've got the wrong end of the stick. you seem to be saying that the two artists represent two different cultures that are being fed to two different races. that's just bonkers, and I'll tell you exactly where your argument falls down. 50 cent sells the vast majority of his records to white suburban males.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Masta P was a PRIME example of that before he went bankrupt and he managed to be a megastar that wasn't globally known!

How he went bankrupt, I will never know...

Yeah there's a few examples, Too Short had a career in which he only sold records in and around Oakland but still went mega platinum. DJ Quik too, I think and others I can't think of right now.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

ok TMQ, I can't really make out the argument here that clearly, so sorry if i've got the wrong end of the stick. you seem to be saying that the two artists represent two different cultures that are being fed to two different races. that's just bonkers, and I'll tell you exactly where your argument falls down. 50 cent sells the vast majority of his records to white suburban males.

Yes but 50 cent is what suburban white males think of black people, he's a gangster, he's a pimp, he's a bad ass basically and that will always appeal to a young white safe audience. Always.

White people will always be the biggest consumer as there's more of us in the western world than there is black people.

My argument is that intelligent black rappers are held back by white companies who would rather sign a mediocre act who is willing to play the role of the 'nigga' as opposed to the intelligent black man or the thoughtful black man. The white man wants the 'nigga', he sells records, he does what the white man wants him to and when he's sold his last record we can send him back to the ghetto.

 

[Anonymous]

ok TMQ, I can't really make out the argument here that clearly, so sorry if i've got the wrong end of the stick. you seem to be saying that the two artists represent two different cultures that are being fed to two different races. that's just bonkers, and I'll tell you exactly where your argument falls down. 50 cent sells the vast majority of his records to white suburban males.

Yes but 50 cent is what suburban white males think of black people, he's a gangster, he's a pimp, he's a bad ass basically and that will always appeal to a young white safe audience. Always.

Actually as a white male, i cannot stand all that bullshit, i think 50 Cent is ok to listen to sometimes because he makes some decent tunes.

 

[Brucie Bonus]

Wow. Another thread dominated by the clueless. Hey, cunts, tell me what it's really like living over here. Fucking CLUELESS.

edit: sorry, but two weeks in Orlando and watching the BBC (Pravda lite) qualifies you as a ****, simple. You have NO FUCKING IDEA you arrogant wannabe twats. Just shut the fuck up about the U.S..