January transfers

Re: January Targets

callumcity said:
City1974 said:
mancity dan said:
Now that the summer transfer window is shut, where do you think we need to or will strengthen?

We probably will not attempt to but until the summer when free from FFP completely (but still need to keep an eye on our net spend so not to fall foul of it again a year later either domestically or for European)

Supposedly then, we are to buy:

a) Pogba from Juventus
b) Koke from Athletico Madrid
c) Sergio Ramos from Real Madrid
d) Mario Mandžukić from Athletico Madrid

Surely no matter who we buy the approach should always to go through the current team one by one and say do we want better than him, can we get better than him or are we happy with him etc.

I would suggest fixed for the club for the present and thus players we want to keep no matter what, and add to are:

1) Hart
2) Zabaleta
3) Kompany
4) Silva
5) Aguero

Add to that having spent £ 32 million on Mangala we cannot really just discard him after 1 season and then we ware looking at improving in any of the following areas

a) A Left back possibly
b) Centre midfielder possibly
c) Winger possibly
d) Strike partner for Aguero

It would be great (for the team and the profile of the club) but fanciful, to think we could sign a megastar i.e. Lional Messi (even if he was interested in coming). With FFP no one could afford him (even Utd) unless a major sponsor agreed to fund part of the deal. and his wages.

I think Ross Barkley would be good for us, but not for an eye watering £ 50 million (£ 25 - £ 27 million more realistic (i.e. get back what they paid for Lukaku) and even that would be Everton taking liberties again).

I think at this point (although it could change by the end of the season) we might look to sell:

1) Dzeko (sometimes great, sometimes very poor)
2) Jovetic (injuries have meant we are still not sure of his ability)
3) Kolarov or Clichy (sometimes good, sometimes poor)
4) Yaya Toure (has he reached the end of his time with City ?)
5) Sinclair (simply needs to move on for him and us)
6) Nastasic (same comments as with Sinclair)
7) Boyata (if we buy another centre half or use Denayer or Rekik and also keep Demichelis surely his time with us is over also)
8) Richards (will be a free agent this summer after his loan at Fiorentina ?)
9) John Guddeti (likley to move permanently maybe to Celtic ?)
10) Richard Wright (we surely simply have to have the EDS keeper (Angus Gunn) on standby if our first choice keepers get injured\suspended ?)

Other question marks may hang over

a) Navas (decent but if we could get better ?)
b) Nasri (sometimes great, but at times frustrating and a little short of pace, but likely to be here next season)
c) Sagna (we will probably keep him, but has he shown enough ?)
d) Caballero (similar points as to Sagna and surely better to have a young English keeper as backup to Joe Hart)
e) Fernando and Fernandinho (we could sell 1 if we buy 2 central midfield players i.e. Pogba and Barkley, but I think both will still be in our squad next season)
f) Milner (will he sign a new contract ? I hope so)

In addition we have to start to add 1 or 2 players at least to our starting 18 (i.e. the 7 subs at least) from the likes of Lopes, Pozo, Ambrose, Fofana, , (Rekik or Denayer), Barker, Hiwula, Zucculini, Iheanacho

If it was football manager, and being mindful of FFP I'd buy and sell the following:

IN:

Bony
Rolando Aarons (Next Oxbo or Sterling)
Barkley (or Pogba)
Trippier (Looks very competent at PL level thus far, cheap, former blue, better than sagna plus homegrown and english)
Isco
Kurzawa (Looks likely anyway)
Another forward. Perez at Newc, Carlos Vela, somebody in that mould...

OUT:

Dzeko
Jovetic
Sagna
Kolorov
Nastasic
Richard Wright

Over the next 2/3 transfer windows.

I'd promote a youth team keeper, a striker (iheanacho, Devante Cole..), and Lopes. I'd also give games to Angelino, Pozo and a few others if they aren't already on loan.

Nowhere near as good as Sagna let alone better.
 
Re: January Targets

citytill1die84 said:
callumcity said:
City1974 said:
We probably will not attempt to but until the summer when free from FFP completely (but still need to keep an eye on our net spend so not to fall foul of it again a year later either domestically or for European)

Supposedly then, we are to buy:

a) Pogba from Juventus
b) Koke from Athletico Madrid
c) Sergio Ramos from Real Madrid
d) Mario Mandžukić from Athletico Madrid

Surely no matter who we buy the approach should always to go through the current team one by one and say do we want better than him, can we get better than him or are we happy with him etc.

I would suggest fixed for the club for the present and thus players we want to keep no matter what, and add to are:

1) Hart
2) Zabaleta
3) Kompany
4) Silva
5) Aguero

Add to that having spent £ 32 million on Mangala we cannot really just discard him after 1 season and then we ware looking at improving in any of the following areas

a) A Left back possibly
b) Centre midfielder possibly
c) Winger possibly
d) Strike partner for Aguero

It would be great (for the team and the profile of the club) but fanciful, to think we could sign a megastar i.e. Lional Messi (even if he was interested in coming). With FFP no one could afford him (even Utd) unless a major sponsor agreed to fund part of the deal. and his wages.

I think Ross Barkley would be good for us, but not for an eye watering £ 50 million (£ 25 - £ 27 million more realistic (i.e. get back what they paid for Lukaku) and even that would be Everton taking liberties again).

I think at this point (although it could change by the end of the season) we might look to sell:

1) Dzeko (sometimes great, sometimes very poor)
2) Jovetic (injuries have meant we are still not sure of his ability)
3) Kolarov or Clichy (sometimes good, sometimes poor)
4) Yaya Toure (has he reached the end of his time with City ?)
5) Sinclair (simply needs to move on for him and us)
6) Nastasic (same comments as with Sinclair)
7) Boyata (if we buy another centre half or use Denayer or Rekik and also keep Demichelis surely his time with us is over also)
8) Richards (will be a free agent this summer after his loan at Fiorentina ?)
9) John Guddeti (likley to move permanently maybe to Celtic ?)
10) Richard Wright (we surely simply have to have the EDS keeper (Angus Gunn) on standby if our first choice keepers get injured\suspended ?)

Other question marks may hang over

a) Navas (decent but if we could get better ?)
b) Nasri (sometimes great, but at times frustrating and a little short of pace, but likely to be here next season)
c) Sagna (we will probably keep him, but has he shown enough ?)
d) Caballero (similar points as to Sagna and surely better to have a young English keeper as backup to Joe Hart)
e) Fernando and Fernandinho (we could sell 1 if we buy 2 central midfield players i.e. Pogba and Barkley, but I think both will still be in our squad next season)
f) Milner (will he sign a new contract ? I hope so)

In addition we have to start to add 1 or 2 players at least to our starting 18 (i.e. the 7 subs at least) from the likes of Lopes, Pozo, Ambrose, Fofana, , (Rekik or Denayer), Barker, Hiwula, Zucculini, Iheanacho

If it was football manager, and being mindful of FFP I'd buy and sell the following:

IN:

Bony
Rolando Aarons (Next Oxbo or Sterling)
Barkley (or Pogba)
Trippier (Looks very competent at PL level thus far, cheap, former blue, better than sagna plus homegrown and english)
Isco
Kurzawa (Looks likely anyway)
Another forward. Perez at Newc, Carlos Vela, somebody in that mould...

OUT:

Dzeko
Jovetic
Sagna
Kolorov
Nastasic
Richard Wright

Over the next 2/3 transfer windows.

I'd promote a youth team keeper, a striker (iheanacho, Devante Cole..), and Lopes. I'd also give games to Angelino, Pozo and a few others if they aren't already on loan.

Nowhere near as good as Sagna let alone better.

I disagree. Sagna has looked sub par at city. Obviously Sagna in his prime was better. I think atm Trippier is more mobile, has a better cross, and far better ball retention. In addition to being a solid defender. Watch some Burnley Games mate.
 
Re: January Targets

callumcity said:
citytill1die84 said:
callumcity said:
If it was football manager, and being mindful of FFP I'd buy and sell the following:

IN:

Bony
Rolando Aarons (Next Oxbo or Sterling)
Barkley (or Pogba)
Trippier (Looks very competent at PL level thus far, cheap, former blue, better than sagna plus homegrown and english)
Isco
Kurzawa (Looks likely anyway)
Another forward. Perez at Newc, Carlos Vela, somebody in that mould...

OUT:

Dzeko
Jovetic
Sagna
Kolorov
Nastasic
Richard Wright

Over the next 2/3 transfer windows.

I'd promote a youth team keeper, a striker (iheanacho, Devante Cole..), and Lopes. I'd also give games to Angelino, Pozo and a few others if they aren't already on loan.

Nowhere near as good as Sagna let alone better.

I disagree. Sagna has looked sub par at city. Obviously Sagna in his prime was better. I think atm Trippier is more mobile, has a better cross, and far better ball retention. In addition to being a solid defender. Watch some Burnley Games mate.

+ He counts as HG, not only in country but also club.
 
Re: January Targets

citytill1die84 said:
callumcity said:
City1974 said:
We probably will not attempt to but until the summer when free from FFP completely (but still need to keep an eye on our net spend so not to fall foul of it again a year later either domestically or for European)

Supposedly then, we are to buy:

a) Pogba from Juventus
b) Koke from Athletico Madrid
c) Sergio Ramos from Real Madrid
d) Mario Mandžukić from Athletico Madrid

Surely no matter who we buy the approach should always to go through the current team one by one and say do we want better than him, can we get better than him or are we happy with him etc.

I would suggest fixed for the club for the present and thus players we want to keep no matter what, and add to are:

1) Hart
2) Zabaleta
3) Kompany
4) Silva
5) Aguero

Add to that having spent £ 32 million on Mangala we cannot really just discard him after 1 season and then we ware looking at improving in any of the following areas

a) A Left back possibly
b) Centre midfielder possibly
c) Winger possibly
d) Strike partner for Aguero

It would be great (for the team and the profile of the club) but fanciful, to think we could sign a megastar i.e. Lional Messi (even if he was interested in coming). With FFP no one could afford him (even Utd) unless a major sponsor agreed to fund part of the deal. and his wages.

I think Ross Barkley would be good for us, but not for an eye watering £ 50 million (£ 25 - £ 27 million more realistic (i.e. get back what they paid for Lukaku) and even that would be Everton taking liberties again).

I think at this point (although it could change by the end of the season) we might look to sell:

1) Dzeko (sometimes great, sometimes very poor)
2) Jovetic (injuries have meant we are still not sure of his ability)
3) Kolarov or Clichy (sometimes good, sometimes poor)
4) Yaya Toure (has he reached the end of his time with City ?)
5) Sinclair (simply needs to move on for him and us)
6) Nastasic (same comments as with Sinclair)
7) Boyata (if we buy another centre half or use Denayer or Rekik and also keep Demichelis surely his time with us is over also)
8) Richards (will be a free agent this summer after his loan at Fiorentina ?)
9) John Guddeti (likley to move permanently maybe to Celtic ?)
10) Richard Wright (we surely simply have to have the EDS keeper (Angus Gunn) on standby if our first choice keepers get injured\suspended ?)

Other question marks may hang over

a) Navas (decent but if we could get better ?)
b) Nasri (sometimes great, but at times frustrating and a little short of pace, but likely to be here next season)
c) Sagna (we will probably keep him, but has he shown enough ?)
d) Caballero (similar points as to Sagna and surely better to have a young English keeper as backup to Joe Hart)
e) Fernando and Fernandinho (we could sell 1 if we buy 2 central midfield players i.e. Pogba and Barkley, but I think both will still be in our squad next season)
f) Milner (will he sign a new contract ? I hope so)

In addition we have to start to add 1 or 2 players at least to our starting 18 (i.e. the 7 subs at least) from the likes of Lopes, Pozo, Ambrose, Fofana, , (Rekik or Denayer), Barker, Hiwula, Zucculini, Iheanacho

If it was football manager, and being mindful of FFP I'd buy and sell the following:

IN:

Bony
Rolando Aarons (Next Oxbo or Sterling)
Barkley (or Pogba)
Trippier (Looks very competent at PL level thus far, cheap, former blue, better than sagna plus homegrown and english)
Isco
Kurzawa (Looks likely anyway)
Another forward. Perez at Newc, Carlos Vela, somebody in that mould...

OUT:

Dzeko
Jovetic
Sagna
Kolorov
Nastasic
Richard Wright

Over the next 2/3 transfer windows.

I'd promote a youth team keeper, a striker (iheanacho, Devante Cole..), and Lopes. I'd also give games to Angelino, Pozo and a few others if they aren't already on loan.

Nowhere near as good as Sagna let alone better.

Think he's better than sagna. Better attacker has more assists and would be home grown. We were stupid to get rid of him in the first place.
 
Re: January Targets

Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
citytill1die84 said:
callumcity said:
If it was football manager, and being mindful of FFP I'd buy and sell the following:

IN:

Bony
Rolando Aarons (Next Oxbo or Sterling)
Barkley (or Pogba)
Trippier (Looks very competent at PL level thus far, cheap, former blue, better than sagna plus homegrown and english)
Isco
Kurzawa (Looks likely anyway)
Another forward. Perez at Newc, Carlos Vela, somebody in that mould...

OUT:

Dzeko
Jovetic
Sagna
Kolorov
Nastasic
Richard Wright

Over the next 2/3 transfer windows.

I'd promote a youth team keeper, a striker (iheanacho, Devante Cole..), and Lopes. I'd also give games to Angelino, Pozo and a few others if they aren't already on loan.

Nowhere near as good as Sagna let alone better.

Think he's better than sagna. Better attacker has more assists and would be home grown. We were stupid to get rid of him in the first place.

Not going to be hard to do is it? Sagna plays less than Trippier. Suddenly Trippier who's had a decent season in the Prem is better than the 2nd best RB in the prem last year.

Trippier wouldn't get in any top 4 side or top 6 for that matter now or in the near future he's not good enough and that's the reason we let him go.
 
Re: January Targets

citytill1die84 said:
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
citytill1die84 said:
Nowhere near as good as Sagna let alone better.

Think he's better than sagna. Better attacker has more assists and would be home grown. We were stupid to get rid of him in the first place.

Not going to be hard to do is it? Sagna plays less than Trippier. Suddenly Trippier who's had a decent season in the Prem is better than the 2nd best RB in the prem last year.

Trippier wouldn't get in any top 4 side or top 6 for that matter now or in the near future he's not good enough and that's the reason we let him go.

Don't think he's far from Debuchy, he's definitely better than Glen Johnson and is miles better than Rafael. Seamus Coleman is better and so is ivanovic but he'd get in Uniteds, Liverpools, Spurs and Arsenals sides. He was one of the best players in the championship last year mate. Think again.
 
Re: January Targets

callumcity said:
citytill1die84 said:
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
Think he's better than sagna. Better attacker has more assists and would be home grown. We were stupid to get rid of him in the first place.

Not going to be hard to do is it? Sagna plays less than Trippier. Suddenly Trippier who's had a decent season in the Prem is better than the 2nd best RB in the prem last year.

Trippier wouldn't get in any top 4 side or top 6 for that matter now or in the near future he's not good enough and that's the reason we let him go.

Don't think he's far from Debuchy, he's definitely better than Glen Johnson and is miles better than Rafael. Seamus Coleman is better and so is ivanovic but he'd get in Uniteds, Liverpools, Spurs and Arsenals sides. He was one of the best players in the championship last year mate. Think again.
Maybe you should have watched the game yesterday, he barely went past the halfway line, he did ok in defence and that is way below top 5 quality never mind tittle contenders and Sagna has looked average but hasn't played anywhere near the amount of games trippier has and as for assists, he takes all of but let's free kicks.
 
Re: January Targets

g180aj said:
callumcity said:
citytill1die84 said:
Not going to be hard to do is it? Sagna plays less than Trippier. Suddenly Trippier who's had a decent season in the Prem is better than the 2nd best RB in the prem last year.

Trippier wouldn't get in any top 4 side or top 6 for that matter now or in the near future he's not good enough and that's the reason we let him go.

Don't think he's far from Debuchy, he's definitely better than Glen Johnson and is miles better than Rafael. Seamus Coleman is better and so is ivanovic but he'd get in Uniteds, Liverpools, Spurs and Arsenals sides. He was one of the best players in the championship last year mate. Think again.
Maybe you should have watched the game yesterday, he barely went past the halfway line, he did ok in defence and that is way below top 5 quality never mind tittle contenders and Sagna has looked average but hasn't played anywhere near the amount of games trippier has and as for assists, he takes all of but let's free kicks.


He'd be even better in a better team, he did more on Sunday than Sagna has in all his appearances so far. We have to start somewhere with the youth and if he is good enough to play in the Prem already, he will surely only improve, and he would remove the issue of home grown, ffs even Mee was world class when compared to Kolarov.
 
BayernMan said:
Manc in London said:
BayernMan said:
There some reports Shaqiri is on his way to Juve on a loan deal with an option to buy

Based on what I have watched, albeit not that much, he comes across as a bit of a selfish, showpony.

All my posts appear to negative today....
Don't worry you haven't said anything that isn't true in that post ;)

Shaqiri has become selfish these past couple seasons, taking shots he has no business taking and just overall poor decision making in his game.

He hardly fucking plays, no wonder he tries to impress when given a chance!
 

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