Joao Cancelo

[domalino]

Sorry, I substantially revised that post after more research ;)

I'm pretty sure my rebuttal holds up.

De Ligt is a top CB already, whoever buys him will get value for money at €75m and whatever wages. If it's Juve they'll teach him a lot about defending too and eventually sell him for a fee which seems impossibly high for a CB right now.

 

[George Hannah]

I'm pretty sure my rebuttal holds up.

De Ligt is a top CB already, whoever buys him will get value for money at €75m.

I think his agent's wage demands for such a young player are way too high, very disruptive.

 

[HypnoticBlue]

Having followed the Blues for 45+ years, in the past we would chase players on their terms, but now it is a different ball game and players have to fit our holistic view for us to be interested, in the past 10 years I can’t think of any I have felt that we had missed out on, it’s been more like we dodged a bullet really.
If we are not in for De Ligt it’s because his attitude is not for us or he’s another Sturridge who believe’s his own hype.
With the success we have had in the last 10 years, I’m happy with how our recruitment works even if it is frustrating at times.

CTID

 

[wattle]

Very strange that Angelino hasn't been given his shirt number yet but Rodri has. I recon he's going to be number 3 but they won't announce that until Danilo has gone. If Danilo is off, we're defo signing Cancelo

 

[George Hannah]

Very strange that Angelino hasn't been given his shirt number yet but Rodri has. I recon he's going to be number 3 but they won't announce that until Danilo has gone. If Danilo is off, we're defo signing Cancelo

Not 69 anyway.

 

[Nicholas van Whatsisface]

Selling first puts us in a difficult position with Juve because then we need a RB.

Needing to sell before buying is just a myth that gets thrown around.

We just did it with Angelino/Delph.

Completely different situation - we can keep both Angelino and Delph in the squad without having to move either on. Angelino was essentially a free pass - we don’t have to shift Deplh having signed Angelino. The two are not connected.

However we can’t keep both Danilo and Cancelo in the squad together, which buying clubs will be very well aware of.

It puts us in a terrible negotiating position, which is why the club won’t sanction any move for Cancelo til we’ve shifted Danilo.

 

[come-on-barney]

Danilo’s decision if he wants to go, but I thought he was great last season when he played. Won’t be disappointed one bit if Danny stays.

 

[MeatHunterrr]

Completely different situation - we can keep both Angelino and Delph in the squad without having to move either on. Angelino was essentially a free pass - we don’t have to shift Deplh having signed Angelino. The two are not connected.

However we can’t keep both Danilo and Cancelo in the squad together, which buying clubs will be very well aware of.

It puts us in a terrible negotiating position, which is why the club won’t sanction any move for Cancelo til we’ve shifted Danilo.

Whos to say Juventus won't ask for more if we sell Danilo first.

 

[ADegenerate]

Whos to say Juventus won't ask for more if we sell Danilo first.

From all accounts they have to sell because of FFP (oh the irony). Maybe Cuadrado to China eliminates that, but I’ve followed some of the Juve stuff on their boards since the Pep rumors. Because of Ronaldo, this is their best value to unload. Especially if they want Pogba. It’s definitely not a scenario where they want to offload the player.

It’d be a hell of a coup and Richards is right. This would be perfect for us and he does have the potential to be the best RB in world football.

Regarding Castles....total Clown but he knows what he’s talking about regarding City and I’m inclined to believe him when he says that it’s close to done. He’s been pimping out how accurate he is at transfers on his podcast and I think it’s a touch further than being a Mendes mouthpiece.

 

[ADegenerate]

Completely different situation - we can keep both Angelino and Delph in the squad without having to move either on. Angelino was essentially a free pass - we don’t have to shift Deplh having signed Angelino. The two are not connected.

However we can’t keep both Danilo and Cancelo in the squad together, which buying clubs will be very well aware of.

It puts us in a terrible negotiating position, which is why the club won’t sanction any move for Cancelo til we’ve shifted Danilo.

One of the greatest parts of our negotiation tactics over the last 5 years is that we don’t overvalue the bigger transfers which gives us flexibility on the smaller ones. I don’t know that we’re willing to do any ‘bad business’ but if we want Cancelo, then personally I don’t think Danilo will hold that up. I really like Danilo but it’s a bit perplexing how unwilling Pep has been to rotate Waker and that completely goes against what we do.

You may well be right but there’s a couple of things that dictate it going the other way from what you’re arguing.