Joe Hart (continued)

[Davs 19]

No, I'm just someone who has coached team sports at a high level, been an elite performance specialist and a well certified coach educator. But what do I know.

Then i presume you know the value of;

encouragement rather than petty fault finding
Squad members retaining a personality and not being un-thinking robots
A little light relief from intense pressure
Not hanging players out to dry for fuck all
Not being influenced by outside forces when managing players
Letting players and staff enjoy a laugh together
Not guessing about players mental state without ever having spoke to them?

Did you play?

I understand the concept of those on the fringes staying there due to a perceived lack of interest. Coaching sport I've turned many a time to make a personnel change and the person I'd want would either be too busy chatting or didn't look focused and I'd move on to the next person who did.

Yes I played team sport and I've coached, and coached coaches. I'm not going to get into it but trust me I know a fuckload about getting peak performance out of a group dynamic in team sports, enough to have been flown over to talk to 6000 other sports coaches in my sport about getting the most out of your team through individual buy in to the concept of "team". Anytime I've seen a player act like Hart did, they've been moved on on the basis of it having a negative impact on group focus to your goals. Behind the scenes I guarantee Hart is getting the very best approach by our coaching staff, but come game day he's at work and should conduct himself as such. His persona reeked of not caring as he wasn't involved. You might say I'm basing that off a minute long clip, but if that camera is MP's eyes when he turns around, then he's seeing the same thing-a player not focused on the game that is taking place.


Let me put this to you another way; you've been disciplined for poor performance at whatever it is you do for a living. A co-worker is given an important role you see as something that you should be doing, as your better than this person at the role. However your boss has gone with the other person as he thinks you aren't applying yourself correctly. So you need to get in the bosses good books or you may even lose your job, despite the fact you were so good at it for the last couple of years. In order to fix this, what do you do?Do you keep your head down and focus, or do you sit behind your boss during your shift cracking jokes and distracting all around you? Do you see this as working for you in order to regain your bosses trust?

I said it a few weeks ago he needs to buck up. It's his focus is the route of all his problems and poor decisions. He is a world class keeper on his day. It needs to be every day, and if he applied the correct attitude it would be.

Are you David Brent and can the 1980's have their management speak back please ?

 

[Davs 19]

In terms of the league, I'd be surprised if he wasn't back in next weekend.

 

[NQCitizen]

In terms of the league, I'd be surprised if he wasn't back in next weekend.

Well that'd be a travesty. Pantilimon has earned the place and more than outperformed Joe since having it.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

In terms of the league, I'd be surprised if he wasn't back in next weekend.

Well that'd be a travesty. Pantilimon has earned the place and more than outperformed Joe since having it.

Agreed. Joe performed below his best for 15 months. Pants deserved a decent run in the team and may well establish himself as our number one.

 

[GXCity]

In terms of the league, I'd be surprised if he wasn't back in next weekend.

Well that'd be a travesty. Pantilimon has earned the place and more than outperformed Joe since having it.

Agreed. Joe performed below his best for 15 months. Pants deserved a decent run in the team and may well establish himself as our number one.

Pants deserved his chance for his professionalism in signing up to stay second choice. He could have gone somewhere else and become number one and kept his place in Romanias squad.

Let me throw something in which may explain things.

Joe had fucked up for a long while on regular occasions

City had stuck by him with two different mangers and continued to do so. He is the better keeper and is a match winner not just a good keeper. Which I am sure you would agree is the opposite of Pants

A certain Rags birthday party falls the day before Joe makes his last mistake before being dropped.

 

[NQCitizen]

Well that'd be a travesty. Pantilimon has earned the place and more than outperformed Joe since having it.

Agreed. Joe performed below his best for 15 months. Pants deserved a decent run in the team and may well establish himself as our number one.

Pants deserved his chance for his professionalism in signing up to stay second choice. He could have gone somewhere else and become number one and kept his place in Romanias squad.

Let me throw something in which may explain things.

Joe had fucked up for a long while on regular occasions

City had stuck by him with two different mangers and continued to do so. He is the better keeper and is a match winner not just a good keeper. Which I am sure you would agree is the opposite of Pants

A certain Rags birthday party falls the day before Joe makes his last mistake before being dropped.

Joe may well be sometimes a 'match winner' but he can also cost a match with bizarre decisions, look at the Chelsea game.

 

[GXCity]

Agreed. Joe performed below his best for 15 months. Pants deserved a decent run in the team and may well establish himself as our number one.

Pants deserved his chance for his professionalism in signing up to stay second choice. He could have gone somewhere else and become number one and kept his place in Romanias squad.

Let me throw something in which may explain things.

Joe had fucked up for a long while on regular occasions

City had stuck by him with two different mangers and continued to do so. He is the better keeper and is a match winner not just a good keeper. Which I am sure you would agree is the opposite of Pants

A certain Rags birthday party falls the day before Joe makes his last mistake before being dropped.

Joe may well be sometimes a 'match winner' but he can also cost a match with bizarre decisions, look at the Chelsea game.

Which was my point. I don't believe that yet another mistake was the problem but more what he may have done before the game to cause the mistake

 

[reznikov]

Question. Two years ago no-one here would have swapped Joe for De Gea. Now, we all would if we were being honest. Joe has the potential to be, and indeed has already been, a top 5 keeper in the world. In the last 15 months though, no chance. So why has he dropped? Technically he is no worse, he can still make the saves, CSKA away for example. It has to be attitude? And seeing him and Lescott pissing around on the bench doesn't smack of professionalism.

 

[Shirley]

Pants deserved his chance for his professionalism in signing up to stay second choice. He could have gone somewhere else and become number one and kept his place in Romanias squad.

Let me throw something in which may explain things.

Joe had fucked up for a long while on regular occasions

City had stuck by him with two different mangers and continued to do so. He is the better keeper and is a match winner not just a good keeper. Which I am sure you would agree is the opposite of Pants

A certain Rags birthday party falls the day before Joe makes his last mistake before being dropped.

Joe may well be sometimes a 'match winner' but he can also cost a match with bizarre decisions, look at the Chelsea game.

Which was my point. I don't believe that yet another mistake was the problem but more what he may have done before the game to cause the mistake

So there was a rag party in London the night before the Chelsea game, what for their fans?

 

[GXCity]

Question. Two years ago no-one here would have swapped Joe for De Gea. Now, we all would if we were being honest. Joe has the potential to be, and indeed has already been, a top 5 keeper in the world. In the last 15 months though, no chance. So why has he dropped? Technically he is no worse, he can still make the saves, CSKA away for example. It has to be attitude? And seeing him and Lescott pissing around on the bench doesn't smack of professionalism.

Totally agree

But if after training you have a photoshoot with Hugo Boss, then an EA software shoot followed by a Head and Shoulders advert. Add that with zero competition for you place for club and country.

Maybe Pants is the better option until Joe gets his priorities right