Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

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Honestly, I think he's a very good keeper for us, and a fair (to sometimes poorish) keeper for England. He's our keeper, and I don't really see the need to replace him. As for England, well, they can drop him if they like, and put, say, Jack Butland in, just as a try-out. Wouldn't bother me in the slightest. Why not. There's room to experiment now in the England line-up.
 
You do anything 38 times compared to 4 & the success rate is nearly always going to be different.... more chances to make mistakes

Yet if you look at individual games you'll see that Hart fairly consistently posted pass success of between 50 and 55% for City in the Prem.

This thing about his distribution is being blown well out of proportion, just as much responsibility falls on the outfield players making themselves available and/or fighting for possession as does the quality of the keepers' passes.
 
Fantastic Goalkeeper and very happy he plays for us. Kept us in the biggest games time and time again.

And will continue to do so.

Yeah, he has his problems, but everyone does. No need to look elsewhere in my opinion.
I agree. I like him so I hope he does well for England but ultimately as long as he plays well for us, that's all I am really concerned about. He has saved our arses so many more times than he has let us down that I struggle to get my head around some of the grief he gets from some blues. Just seems to me that we are now in a situation at City where if a player isn't pretty much perfect then he's likely to get hammered from some quarters.
 
Not worried about Joe for a minute. He's a different player for England. He was edgy and pumped up but he let it get to him. You could see him in the tunnel and during the anthem, he was twitchy because he was so up for the game. As a midfielder that might be a positive asset - full of energy. As a keeper it leads to irrational decision making or poor reactions. He should have been a picture of calm, as he is for City in big games.

To be fair to him, whilst he should have saved the second goal, what the fuck was going on in front of him. We watched Iceland pass around us and could barely move to make a tackle - the shot was poor but he should have scored from there in any case.
 
"Us" as in City? Hart has cost us on many an occasion? OK, name me 5 occasions when Hart himself has cost us a game. I suspect it's easier to name 5 occasions when he has won us a game, or maybe even 25 occasions when he has.

His mix up with Nastasic
His mix up with Kolo Toure
His pass to Fernando
Him vs Bayern(3-1 loss)
Spilled a soft cross straight to Andy King to tap in
Adam Johnson vs us
Ball trickled through his legs vs Southampton for a tap in
Has dropped many a cross that have led to goals hence why he punches all the time now

Multiple mistakes for England
 
His mix up with Nastasic
His mix up with Kolo Toure
His pass to Fernando
Him vs Bayern(3-1 loss)
Spilled a soft cross straight to Andy King to tap in
Adam Johnson vs us
Ball trickled through his legs vs Southampton for a tap in
Has dropped many a cross that have led to goals hence why he punches all the time now

Multiple mistakes for England

I can demonstrate Neuer and De Gea making errors that have cost their team too. Unfortunately when a goalkeeper makes an error there is a good chance it leads to a goal.

He has bailed us out time and time again and wouldn't swap him for anyone else. He is world class and loves this club. We are lucky to have him.
 
His mix up with Nastasic
His mix up with Kolo Toure
His pass to Fernando
Him vs Bayern(3-1 loss)
Spilled a soft cross straight to Andy King to tap in
Adam Johnson vs us
Ball trickled through his legs vs Southampton for a tap in
Has dropped many a cross that have led to goals hence why he punches all the time now

Multiple mistakes for England
I think you will find he has won us more points than he has cost us. Plenty of keepers make mistakes and he is young for a keeper. I notice De Gea has cost Spain two goals but nobody is ranting and raving about him.
 
In regards his distribution, why is it that his distribution for the Euros stands at 76% ( up there with the best ) yet his distribution for City last season in the Prem was at 52%?

Less games in the euros. Less touches also but when really asked he failed.

If we has got through the % would soon drop
Either his footwork has come on leaps and bounds in a month or there's another reason for it.

Riddle me that.
 
I think you will find he has won us more points than he has cost us. Plenty of keepers make mistakes and he is young for a keeper. I notice De Gea has cost Spain two goals but nobody is ranting and raving about him.

I not arsed about De gea as he does not play for us.
 
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