Zin 'messiah' Zimmer
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I don't have that power I'm afraid...
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Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)
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I don't have that power I'm afraid...
When did I "obviously" say that? When I asked how many right back Kyle Walker had won?So you follow, it was in reference to a player being picked above others in POTY and TOTY because of nationality... You know, like Kun being ignored for 5 years.... You go round in circles bud... You obviously believe those golden gloves are a consequence of Joe and his ability, I disagree as we had the best leader in England in front of him!
Had the poster solely referenced how many times Hart had been selected to a PFA TOTY as criteria for him being a great player then reference to other players with questionable appearances in PFA TOTY would have made sense. Given he referenced two goalkeeper specific "stats" as well then using a right back as a contradictory example is stupid.
If you can reference another 'keeper with 4 Golden Glove awards and 3 PFA TOTY appearances that would dilute arguably how impressive that would be then I'd be all ears. A bang average right back with 1 PFA TOTY appearance proves fuck all (((:
First reference to any of this, so no circles here.
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Maybe its just me but I am surprised that Pep would just jettison his career and history with the club based on a few training sessions and a few wayward passes.
It is only a guess but I would imagine Pep would only be this unforgiving if the player in question made no effort change and adapt to a new way of playing.
Also what exactly are the expectations on the keeper? Surely it is just a case of being comfortable on the ball and finding the feet of the fullbacks and cebtre halfs. Its not exactly a secret Pep would be looking for this, so you do wonder what Hart has being doing over the last 6 months. The opportunity has been there to focus on this side of the game.
It is only a guess but I would imagine Pep would only be this unforgiving if the player in question made no effort change and adapt to a new way of playing.
Also what exactly are the expectations on the keeper? Surely it is just a case of being comfortable on the ball and finding the feet of the fullbacks and cebtre halfs. Its not exactly a secret Pep would be looking for this, so you do wonder what Hart has being doing over the last 6 months. The opportunity has been there to focus on this side of the game.
That's your opinion pal. For me last year joe was a big reason for us actually scrapping into the top 4 and get to the semis in Europe.
Don't get me wrong I love Joe as much as every blue but if everyone's honest with themselves there has been some questionable moments in recent memory where he has cost us goals i.e. victor mosses early last season at his near post from outside the box, I remember correctly it happened a couple times over the a handful of games. when he dropped the ball for Jerome to tap into our net. He didn't exactly instil confidence in us with his England form.
Lets face it we all wanted Pep and expected that there would be a big casualty, for me I'm all in whatever he decides I will trust in our manager and if it means Joe goes then so be it.
kaz7
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Mp was the manager so he had to do what he wanted,i expect he thought learning is what pre-season is forMaybe its just me but I am surprised that Pep would just jettison his career and history with the club based on a few training sessions and a few wayward passes.
It is only a guess but I would imagine Pep would only be this unforgiving if the player in question made no effort change and adapt to a new way of playing.
Also what exactly are the expectations on the keeper? Surely it is just a case of being comfortable on the ball and finding the feet of the fullbacks and cebtre halfs. Its not exactly a secret Pep would be looking for this, so you do wonder what Hart has being doing over the last 6 months. The opportunity has been to focus on this side of the game.
Just about sums it up unfortunately.
Too many taking this personally when they shouldnt. We have a new manager and a new system and if Pep doesnt fancy Joe or think he can play his way he will go.
Thats football in much the same way, Joe would ask for a transfer if he felt he fancied a change, more money or he could better himself.
Simply put we either get behind Pep completely or not at all.
Maybe its just me but I am surprised that Pep would just jettison his career and history with the club based on a few training sessions and a few wayward passes.
It is only a guess but I would imagine Pep would only be this unforgiving if the player in question made no effort change and adapt to a new way of playing.
Also what exactly are the expectations on the keeper? Surely it is just a case of being comfortable on the ball and finding the feet of the fullbacks and cebtre halfs. Its not exactly a secret Pep would be looking for this, so you do wonder what Hart has being doing over the last 6 months. The opportunity has been there to focus on this side of the game.
Joe thought his seniority and standing at the club would save him. He was wrong.
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer
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When did I "obviously" say that? When I asked how many right back Kyle Walker had won?
Had the poster solely referenced how many times Hart had been selected to a PFA TOTY as criteria for him being a great player then reference to other players with questionable appearances in PFA TOTY would have made sense. Given he referenced two goalkeeper specific "stats" as well then using a right back as a contradictory example is stupid.
If you can reference another 'keeper with 4 Golden Glove awards and 3 PFA TOTY appearances that would dilute arguably how impressive that would be then I'd be all ears. A bang average right back with 1 PFA TOTY appearance proves fuck all (((:
First reference to any of this, so no circles here.
Christ almighty, you can throw in as many curve balls as you like, the fact you're unable to keep up, isn't something I can help with other than to say that 'you're right, pudge, you're alway right'... Joe hart is the greatest keeper the prem has ever seen as he has the most golden glove awards, TOTY appearances and and great hair....
Did you watch us week in week out last season? He was arguably our best player and kept us in loads of games. Very short memories some people.
yes I did, my season ticket this season has a picture from the Bernabeu. Someone being our best player last season doesn't really say much, we were simply well below par.
Passed it to the oppos striker first chance he got?
Did it lead to a goal?
How many times has Joe kicked the ball straight out of play instead of finding the man he was aiming for?
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