Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

[SWP's back]

Just wanting to dispute the narrative that seems to being peddled by some that Bravo is *clearly* a better keeper than Hart. I don't think there is close to a consensus on that, and up until this summer think most would have disagreed.

Because four journalists that are based in the uk marginally favour Hart?

Are you kidding me. Find the same results in a Chilean and Spanish set of papers and I may believe you.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Not saying journos know everything but can't see Bravo above Hart in any of these lists. So I think to say Bravo is clearly an improvement is inaccurate.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/6-best-goalkeepers-world

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-masters-craft-rank-10-goalkeepers-world.html

http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/gal...courtois-gianluigi-buffon-david-de-gea-012816

http://worldsoccer.about.com/od/internationals/tp/tengoalkeepers.htm

Well I don't know about anyone else, but that seals it for me.

Now, seeing as we're blindly believing random media sources, I'm off to find the one where Phil Jones is the new Duncan Edwards, as I might have misjudged him...

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Too much smoke to be no fire. Plenty of reports about Joe to Everton, even the Everton ITK's on their forums said there were talks taking place.
They're either being cheaps cunts or Joe has knocked them back and they're saving face.

It'll be "cheap cunts" almost certainly.

 

[SWP's back]

You may not like him cherry picking those lists but it isn't unreasonable to suggest that it is at least debatable who is the better keeper of the two. It's pretty clear that Bravo will suit Pep's plans better which is what matters to us I suppose but in terms of all round goal keeping, I am sure there is a debate to be had, assuming people can be arsed to have it.

Then he is the better keeper and an upgrade for us.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Agreed,,, you lads started it off 2nd half when we switched ends.. what was going on with the lads in red jackets??

I have no idea, I'm not one of 'them' I normally sit with various miserable old cunts & a few ex hooligans.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Then he is the better keeper and an upgrade for us.

I find that slightly ambiguous, do you mean "he is the better keeper for us and an upgrade for us"?

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

You've said a few things recently hinting that somebody is telling you stuff. Is it true or are you making things up?

I get info when i meet someone at the match, thats it. Reliable source, take it how you like :-) i know people wont believe me but oh well

 

[Abattoir Blue]

Because four journalists that are based in the uk marginally favour Hart?

Are you kidding me. Find the same results in a Chilean and Spanish set of papers and I may believe you.

1. I'm not saying Hart is better than Bravo. 2.I'm not saying that he is better because these articles say so.

What I am saying that you and others saying Bravo is an upgrade is disputed by many. Not just me.

 

[taconinja]

It sometimes doesn't work

Thanks! (I'm used to people deleting tweets all the time breaking the links when people try to quote them.)

 

[mosssideblue]

Anyone else think he might slag pep off a bit once he is gone? I really hoe not, but in his instagram post he said, "but please know whatever appens, i will always remember this". Almost like he is saying, im not ungrateful, but...

No. I think your reading too much into it tbh

 

[SWP's back]

I find that slightly ambiguous, do you mean "he is the better keeper for us and an upgrade for us"?

Both as they synonymous.

Whilst we are on lists:

ntonio 'Condor' Rojas.

Roberto Rojas is proud to share the title with Bravo. In December 2015 he said: "I place him as one of the two best goalkeepers in the world with Manuel Neuer."

I can post a quote of English legend Shilton saying Hart isn't as good as people think he is, for balance like.

 

[SWP's back]

1. I'm not saying Hart is better than Bravo. 2.I'm not saying that he is better because these articles say so.

What I am saying that you and others saying Bravo is an upgrade is disputed by many. Not just me.

But not the manager nor the goal keeper coach who has worked with both.

 

[shadygiz]

What about PSG? Or Russian clubs that can comfortably afford his wages?

PSG would be my shout too if europe

 

[Chris in London]

1. I'm not saying Hart is better than Bravo. 2.I'm not saying that he is better because these articles say so.

What I am saying that you and others saying Bravo is an upgrade is disputed by many. Not just me.

The mere fact that he is better suited to Peps game plan in itself means that he is an upgrade. If we had a different manager playing a different style then Hart might well be an upgrade on Bravo - but we don't.

We all love JH and we have watched him grow with the club. He is the last player who was here under Pearce and it is surprisingly hard to watch that link being severed. But Pep plays a system that involves round holes and JH is (so peps view would seem to be) a square peg.

 

[CityPar]

But not the manager nor the goal keeper coach who has worked with both.

AND AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME THAT'S WHAT COUNTS NOT WHAT SOME FAN FROM THE STANDS THINK

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

Both as they synonymous.

Whilst we are on lists:

ntonio 'Condor' Rojas.

Roberto Rojas is proud to share the title with Bravo. In December 2015 he said: "I place him as one of the two best goalkeepers in the world with Manuel Neuer."

I can post a quote of English legend Shilton saying Hart isn't as good as people think he is, for balance like.

I think Hart has been good enough for us until now. I also thinks that Hart is not good enough a keeper to take us to the next level that is demanded by Pep

 

[Orpheus]

Peps more interested in all round team play than all round goalkeeping.

Joes a decent keeper, Bravo is also a decent keeper with exceptional distribution.

 

[SWP's back]

I think Hart has been good enough for us until now. I also thinks that Hart is not good enough a keeper to take us to the next level that is demanded by Pep

I agree with that sentiment.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Both as they synonymous.

Well just because he may be the better keeper for us and an upgrade for us in our specific circumstances doesn't necessarily mean that he is the better keeper overall. As I said, it is at least debatable who is the better keeper and no doubt there will be plenty around (not just City fans) who think Hart is a better all round keeper. Hopefully Bravo will take to the unique demands of the Premier League better and more quickly than Pep thought Hart could take to the unique demands of Pep's way of playing.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Fondest memory of Hart. Good luck Joe!