Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

[aguero93:20]

like silva

And that Xavi lad, he was fucking shite with the ball at his feet too.

 

[aguero93:20]

Whatever happened to no man bigger than the club.

Yes actually what did happen?

 

[FanchesterCity]

I'm sure that Harts footballing ability can be replaced. But what about his personality? What about his leadership qualities? What about actually giving a fuck to clap the fans at the end?

I don't care if we're playing the best football and winning every possible trophy, if there aren't players who in some way or represent the fans on the pitch then it's just not the same for me anymore. With Kompany injured frequently and Zabaleta's slight decline in form I'm worried we're losing a lot of our identity.

Maybe the new signings can fill the void of these three players. I'm willing to wait and see but last season it wasn't our dreadful league performance that pissed me off the most. It was the way management and players had no respect for the fans. That better not be the case this season, regardless of how we perform.

He is a fans favourite, yes, not least because he's English and we've effectively seen him travel this recent journey with us - which is why so many are upset / bothered by it. But Aguero's won our affection without all that stuff. So you don't HAVE to 'be Mr Spokesman' or 'Mr City' to win over the fans.

I'm reluctant to suggest Joe's mouthy behind the scenes, because I genuinely have no idea if he is, or isn't, but I am minded of Ferguson's stance about very good players like Ince and Keane who the fans loved, but had just a bit too much to say too often, and thought they'd earned some right to question the manager. What we see on the pitch and the image a player creates for the media can be very different than the one behind closed doors.

Remember the Keane incident in the World Cup? some would say he was standing up for improvements in the Irish FA, but at the same time, he walked away from his teammates and left them to it when they needed him the most. Or 'Mr Chelsea' who had no qualms about shagging a former team mates ex - who knows what sort of dressing room dynamics that creates?

Again, I don't want to suggest Joe is similar to those examples, but what the fans see is a very limited glimpse.

 

[@BluePhil8]

Yes actually what did happen?

Not sure but a load of people putting Joe Hart before the long term strategy of the club. Seems bizzare.

 

[FanchesterCity]

Yes actually what did happen?

Andy Morrison put that myth to bed.

 

[aguero93:20]

You do realise this was our first game implementing it, yeah? It's clearly going over your head mate so I'd advise relaxing and seeing how it plays out between now and November.

I've no problem with the tactics, I just don't think Hart would be any worse at them than anyone else given the opportunity, which he has more than earned. This isn't a player on his way out like Yaya, a player we can't rely upon like Vinnie, or even a player who's consistently shown himself up to not be up to the standard, this is one of our top performers, probably our most consistent one, in the most successful period of our history, in his prime, seemingly being fucked out the door on the strength of 45 minutes in a pre season friendly behind Kolarov and Fernando at centre half.

 

[aguero93:20]

He is a fans favourite, yes, not least because he's English and we've effectively seen him travel this recent journey with us - which is why so many are upset / bothered by it. But Aguero's won our affection without all that stuff. So you don't HAVE to 'Mr Spokesman' to win over the fans.

We should get rid of him too, doesn't train hard enough, keeps getting injured, plays the joker all the time and he's useless as a false 9. That Aduriz chap is playing well in Spain, get him in.

Edit: Weren't there some rumours about him and Maradona's daughter having some 'difficulties' in their break-up? Sell him to Everton, any striker from Spain that a top club don't see as worth hanging on to must be better.

 

[oldhamblue]

So have we gone from being excited about having the most innovative and succesful coaches in world football to "he doesn't know what he's doing regarding the goalkeeper" in a few weeks? His results show we should trust his judgement

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

And that Xavi lad, he was fucking shite with the ball at his feet too.

not a patch on kinky.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Well I'm going off his words there, seeing as he 'hates Tiki Taka', I can't imagine he'd be too happy about the centre halves and goalkeeper playing 15-20 passes between them without moving the ball into a better position. Don't think I've ever seen Neuer, Valdes, Ter Stegen or Bravo contribute more than 2 or 3 to a move either and I don't think they'd be too comfortable with the idea.

Clearly he doesn't hate Tiki Taka as that is exactly what we played on Saturday - 75%+ possession with 10 chances in the whole game is exactly Tiki Taka.