Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

[Burtonblue]

Having seen what I have in the very short time Pep has been with us I wholeheartedly trust his judgement in the Hart situation.
Shame for Joe who is an honest lad but if Pep thinks there is better out there then we'd better have it.
Let's hope we get decent money if he decided to go.

 

[MCFCinUSA]

This is only a hunch but there is more to this than we think.

I would imagine hart being very vocal and influencial in dressing room and that is why pep is getting rid.

Pellers was to weak to do it but pep isn'

if you trace the trail of crumbs it was Joe's post on the Muffin/Barm thread that did it

 

[kenzie115]

Watching Caballero last night tells me that Hart's exclusion isn't based on his footballing ability. It's a statement.

Pep has taken over a squad which has been known to down tools and even pressurise senior management into removing a coach. He had to assert his authority and seems to believe the best way to do that was to remove one of the "untouchables".

Over the past few years our key players have been our spine of Hart, Kompany, Yaya, Silva and Aguero. Dropping/selling Yaya wouldn't have worked as everyone knows he's on the wane and not really suited to Premier League football anymore, never mind Pep football. Similarly, Silva is getting on, isn't the fittest and so it wouldn't have been a huge statement if he'd have been cast out. Kompany's injury record has led many to question his long term future and so again, that wouldn't have had the desired effect.

That leaves us with Hart vs Aguero. From this point it's an easy choice really, the only way to make the desired statement was to oust Hart. I feel sorry for Joe as I like him, he's been brilliant for us and it looks like he's not even getting a chance. But ultimately it's not about the football and I begrudgingly agree it's a good tactic from Pep to gain control of the dressing room and will work out well in the long term.

I just pray we've sealed the Bravo deal as I don't fancy Caballero in goal all season.

 

[sir baconface]

Care to elaborate or is that it?

Since you have no self awareness, I'll elaborate.

Your picture post of Hart was a snide dig. Some people on here accept he will go but still show respect for a guy who has earned it. That's why several posters thought you were acting like a dick.

Comprendi?

 

[mardon85]

He had some amazing performances for us in the champions league. Then had a shocking Euroes. Was the fact he may be forced out playing on his mind at this time?
I'll be sad if he goes. If he does we need a decent fee and I wouldn't like to see him go to a British team.

 

[nmc]

I think it's inevitable that Joe will be going and at this time it's the right decision. Pep has been brought in to take us to the next level and to do do that he has to make some big calls - and this is one of them. Joe has been great for us - he's been an integral part of the most successful era in our history. I can't think for the life of me why people are slagging him off - I'm grateful for all he's done for us (and he equally should be grateful for what the club has done for him). I wish Joe well, I hope he keeps his England place and I'll give him a good reception whenever he returns to the Etihad ( but hope he doesn't have a blinder against us).

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

This is surely more about his influence in the dressing room and pep showing who's boss. It's all just a real shame. I think we will regret selling him

It's a big gamble I agree but I really don't think we will regret it.

 

[01cravend]

I think it all came as a bit of a shock to Joe, he's being frozen out. Don't think he knew he would be in this position a few weeks ago.

Didn't John Stones say he spoke to Joe extensively before moving here, Joe begged him to come, that we need him here? If he was aware of his predicament he'd probably told him to stay at Everton as he'll probably be joining him there.

Shit move by City?

 

[Centurions]

The time you want Joe to smile he bloody doesn't.

Still, he loves the club ... Apparently.

Can't see a smile on Sagna's face either, does the same apply?

Besides, he knows better than anyone what's going on and he also knows they'll have a camera permanently focused on him. Can you imagine what it's like for him? I'm not sure I could handle the pressure.

 

[trotsky]

Joe is a legend and I am clinging to the hope it isn't over yet. If he and Pep have had a disagreement then this is the point where Joe needs to put it behind him and apologise and grovel. If Pep is the greatest at developing players ( and I believe he is ) then transforming Joe to a ball playing keeper would be an outstanding achievement and compliment to both player and coach.
You may say I'm a dreamer, but ...