Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

[Rolee]

The one thing I'm worried about is certain sections of our fanbase turning on Pep. I'll reiterate; Pep is the third consecutive manager we've had who has believed that Hart should be replaced. This isn't just about Hart's abilities as a keeper, it's also about his attitude. As much as Hart has done and achieved, let's not forget his role in Mancini's sacking, his strops under Pellegrini and how in the brief time he's played under Pep, he's completely ignored instruction. Hart has certain sections of the fanbase under his thumb and he knows it, hence his ego leading him to believe he can fuck about management.

This is the same Joe Hart who had a strop at being loaned to Birmingham but then after he enjoyed himself there wouldn't shut up about Birmingham in the months after he returned. The same Joe Hart who's best mates with half of the Utd squad - don't make comparisons with Buzz & Best, holidays with Rooney you can accept, sat with van Persie at X-Factor hours after van Persie has scored a last minute winner in a Derby is a piss take. The same Joe Hart who on both occasions of being dropped by Pellegrini had within 48 hours briefed the media of his desire to look elsewhere if he didn't get his way.

Forget the badge pulling and all the aggro, he's served us well but he's a prick and if De Gea had left the Scum last summer then Hart would've flown to that lot. He's tried to fuck about with the wrong manager and his luck has run out.

Thanks for the saves, thanks for the contributions but no individual is bigger or better than Manchester City, particularly not one who thinks he can manipulate the same club and it's fanbase to his wishes.

Amazing that he managed to remain at the club for so long when these managers wanted rid of him. He must have some dirt on Khaldoon or something.

 

[01cravend]

He is not being hung out to dry any more than any other player who is dropped, or not deemed good enough anymore. It happens.
Nobody's moaning about Bony going are they?
Yes Joe's been good for us, so was Shaun Goater, Bellamy, Tevez, but in the end they all went.
Joe is well liked by many fans, and whilst some recognise some of his weaknesses, it's still probably a bit of a shock that he should be one of the first 'big names' to face the axe - but someone was always going to be the first big name to face the axe.
It could well be Kompany next, it could even be Silva - we just don't know.

When you are dropped, you are dropped. It's not being 'hung out to dry'. We as fans don't know the full facts, we don't know if there's been ongoing issues over a period of time - we just don't know, and even if there's been no issues and it's entirely down to Pep's assessment of him as a keeper - then c'est la vie.

Put it another way, if Barca said they'd do a deal with us for Messi that required Joe Hart in part exchange - I doubt many of us would be so reluctant to let him go.

As for Pep not assessing everyone - again, we don't know how long he's been keeping an eye on us and we don't know if other City management have had some input into the situation with Hart. Although Pep is the manager, decisions at the club involve more than just him.

I liked Joe, I thought he was a very decent keeper and did a great job for us. I liked Given too and thought the same of him. But we aren't going to rival Barca / Madrid / Bayern without more upgrades, and those upgrades are getting closer and closer to happening with some of our long held favourites. Joe's just the first.

Bony hasn't been here for 10 years though.

Point is, I don't care if Hart is replaced if Pep thinks it is best for the team..I care that it should have been handled a bit better(earlier, with more transparency) and people on here shouldn't be putting him through the wringer to justify Pep not wanting him here, when they need say nothing else other than he doesn't fit Pep's style.

Where were the majority of people on this thread, that are giving Joe shit, when Pep first took over? Probably commenting how Pep will turn every single one of our players into world beaters. Fucking bandwagoners

 

[citytill1die84]

De Gea, Lloris, Cech, Courtois, Begovic all better imo.

I would put Hart on a similar level to Mignolet, good shot stopper but makes too many mistakes.

Haha

 

[FanchesterCity]

Don't think that will happen. We've been wanting a good manager for some time. That said he won't be afforded much time to build - which with our defence is a bit of a concern.

We will turn on Pep if results are poor. His stature in the game will give him a little more time than usual, but not much.
So far, Pep's been good enough to never face that situation, but it'll happen to him one day - if not us, then somewhere else.
If it all goes pear shaped, then decisions like Joe will be used against him - and probably justifiably, but if it all goes well, nobody will be bemoaning the loss of Joe as we lift a CL trophy. Like every other manager, he will live and die by his decisions. He's been very good at it so far, no reason so suspect that won't continue *fingers crossed*

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Already briefing the press on what he's going to "accept" in terms of a move.

Hope we teach him a lesson in who's really the biggest boss and that he'll end up doing what we want.

 

[aguero93:20]

I think the baldy one is just jealous that Hart has a good head of hair and can get a sponsorship deal with Head and Shoulders, while the only offers he gets are from Pledge and Mr. Sheen.

 

[Phil1]

I think the baldy one is just jealous that Hart has a good head of hair and can get a sponsorship deal with Head and Shoulders, while the only offers he gets are from Pledge and Mr. Sheen.

I think Pep carries his hairstyle(or lack of..) better than Hart.

*swoons*

 

[Marvin]

IMO, we have not done anything wrong in this.

Assuming it's a footballing matter, which is the most obvious and most likely explanation, it's a question of judgement. Guardiola's call. We haven't see whether he can adapt. Guardiola will have done in training. It's his responsibility. His call.

 

[aguero93:20]

I think Pep carries his hairstyle(or lack of..) better than Hart.

*swoons*

He's not keeping it too well maintained in this advert the dome headed ****.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

If Sevilla are an option it might be the best one in order to develop his game into what Guardiola requires. He's one of the best stoppers in world football but Pep wants more than that. All the players he's inherited seem to understand his modus operandi and if Joe wishes to remain he will need to adopt the manager's methods.