Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

[BoyBlue_1985]

Comment from The Guardian live coverage of the England game:

“Joe Hart is an ‘eye of the beholder player’,” writes Robert Lowery. “Cited by many UK commentators as among the best but from the outside he seems error prone though not without talent. England’s own Richard Dunne , if you will. To me he looks, speaks and carries himself like those forgettable, interchangeable back-row forwards that spend a few years running around Twickenham before being replaced by another nondescript, good but not great blonde haired, blue eyed, double-barreler - right down to the off field japes and urgings in the tunnel.”

What an absolute barrel of shit that is from what can only be described as full blooded cuntola

 

[Newman Noggs]

I don't think he's a top top keeper for good reason. If you watch his saves objectively 9/10 the saves declared world class by all and sundry are routine saves you expect any keeper at the Pl level to make.
A clever little thing he does is when he knows he's beaten he will stand there as if he had absolutely no chance whereas at least other keepers would have a go. So it looks like he was beaten by pure class rather than beaten because he's shit.
I will concede there is something he's very good at: acting. I can't remember any time he has ever dived for a save (he could easily make)and it not looked like he was going to win an Oscar. He's nothing but a showman for the camera who does the odd good save, but fucking hell I do the same on Sunday's minus the cameras

Thank goodness some posters have the bollocks to call it as it is and don't simply parrot what they are told by the media. Tonight's game showed how right you were. For whatever faults he may have, Hart is light years ahead of De Gea.

 

[Rolee]

Thank goodness some posters have the bollocks to call it as it is and don't simply parrot what they are told by the media. Tonight's game showed how right you were. For whatever faults he may have, Hart is light years ahead of De Gea.

Near post again for De Gea, funnily enough I was only commenting yesterday ( in the Silva thread )how him leaving too much space at his near post is a recurring thing.

 

[BlueAnorak]

It bothers me why most Hart's advocates here think that our defenders (to wit VK, Sagna, Otamendi, Clichy, Zab, Mangala et al) are shit when opponents scored on us.
Considering that our defenders had limited our opponents scoring chances and that our GK of the day had less save percentages than his counterpart. Go figure..and correlate

Haters going to hate.
Ah the clueless hating one is back to have another pop.
The answer is because when our defence broke last season it broke so badly Hart virtually has no chance of doing anything about it.The fact he saves so many is the astonishing thing with Pellers ridiculous Premier League standard defensive strategy. When we defended properly in Champions League games, he was - guess what - the best keeper in the Champions League with 4 or 5 great saves every game. And if our defence is so good, why does Pep want to change it wholesale?

 

[Rolee]

It bothers me why most Hart's advocates here think that our defenders (to wit VK, Sagna, Otamendi, Clichy, Zab, Mangala et al) are shit when opponents scored on us.
Considering that our defenders had limited our opponents scoring chances and that our GK of the day had less save percentages than his counterpart. Go figure..and correlate

What does this mean?

 

[stonerblue]

Not gonna wade through this thread again but i'm presuming the Hart bashers are back? Unbelievable Jeff..

 

[Lancet Fluke]

What does this mean?

It's an interesting post. I think he may have written the first sentence, gone off and got hammered and then returned to write the rest of it.

 

[RandomJ]

It bothers me why most Hart's advocates here think that our defenders (to wit VK, Sagna, Otamendi, Clichy, Zab, Mangala et al) are shit when opponents scored on us.
Considering that our defenders had limited our opponents scoring chances and that our GK of the day had less save percentages than his counterpart. Go figure..and correlate

Did you even watch us at all last season? The number of times our defence fucked up leaving Joe having to deal with yet another one on one? It may not fit your narrative but our defence was absolute horse shit at times last season.

 

[VOOMER]

If the opponents know that a half decent shot to Hart's left can go in, then we have a problem.

 

[BlueAnorak]

If Hart had made the mess up that De Gea made against Croatia'last night, Hart would have been hunted down by a torch-light illuminated mob, carrying various agricultural implements, and strung up from the nearest tree.
Awful keeping.