Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

[SexAndManCity]

Every single one of these 'Top 100 players in the World' list things puts Neuer in the top 10, then Buffon, Keylor Navas, Claudio Bravo, Courtois, Cech and De Gea are the only other 'keepers mentioned.

It baffles me why anyone other than Neuer and Buffon are considered to be better than JH.
Neuer makes mistakes, Courtois was being wanked over before he'd even played a game in England and didn't look anything out of the ordinary last year, De Gea is just a shot stopper and Cech has made the odd mistake too. Buffon is one of the only 'keepers I can think of who I've never really seen make a howler, although I'm sure he probably has.

It's difficult really for anyone to pass comment on other players though because they don't watch other teams in any great depth and then use England games and pundits comments to form their opinions. Whilst always having the agenda that their team's player is better.

With JH though, It's the old double sided argument.
City's defense is shit and JH is shit.
But JH kept 15 clean sheets and City's goals against was actually the 4th/5th best in the league, so which of the above statements is wrong??

Also, Kahn, Schmeichel and Lehmann saying he shouldn't have bothered with a wall.
Anyone remember Nicky Weaver trying that with Beckham??

 

[Rolee]

Every single one of these 'Top 100 players in the World' list things puts Neuer in the top 10, then Buffon, Keylor Navas, Claudio Bravo, Courtois, Cech and De Gea are the only other 'keepers mentioned.

It baffles me why anyone other than Neuer and Buffon are considered to be better than JH.
Neuer makes mistakes, Courtois was being wanked over before he'd even played a game in England and didn't look anything out of the ordinary last year, De Gea is just a shot stopper and Cech has made the odd mistake too. Buffon is one of the only 'keepers I can think of who I've never really seen make a howler, although I'm sure he probably has.

It's difficult really for anyone to pass comment on other players though because they don't watch other teams in any great depth and then use England games and pundits comments to form their opinions. Whilst always having the agenda that their team's player is better.

With JH though, It's the old double sided argument.
City's defense is shit and JH is shit.
But JH kept 15 clean sheets and City's goals against was actually the 4th/5th best in the league, so which of the above statements is wrong??

Also, Kahn, Schmeichel and Lehmann saying he shouldn't have bothered with a wall.
Anyone remember Nicky Weaver trying that with Beckham??

They wouldn't have bothered with a wall at 35 yards, isn't that right Oliver?



Or how about you Jens?

 

[franksinatra]

Who?
Hart yes,
De gea: I stand by my comments and until de gea does anything remotely impressive or wins the golden glove I will not change that opinion.

Edit: after some research I found out that De Gea has won the very prestigious Sir Matt Busby Player of the Year three seasons on the trot. My sincere apologies

That is mad to think that about De Gea. It can only be the blue-tinted specs. But as its not my place to defend him carry on.

 

[BlueAnorak]

there's been some crossed wires here lads.

I'm sorry if people have understood that I was talking about Hart? I can promise you I'm not, my first post in this chain refers to the Donut Thief and that's who I've been talking about. As far as I'm concerned joe's England's and our number one for now and the foreseeable future for good reasons.

My negativity is directed at De Gea and De gea alone.

Thought it was a Clarkie.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

They wouldn't have bothered with a wall at 35 yards, isn't that right Oliver?



Or how about you Jens?

God himself wouldn't of kept that Juninho free kick out still the best one I have seen after Roberto Carlos broke the laws of physics

 

[Rolee]

God himself wouldn't of kept that Juninho free kick out still the best one I have seen after Roberto Carlos broke the laws of physics

Stunning free kick but my point was that both Oliver and Jens set up walls for 35 yarders in the vid and the pic above and then criticise Joe for the same thing.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Stunning free kick but my point was that both Oliver and Jens set up walls for 35 yarders in the vid and the pic above and then criticise Joe for the same thing.

Is the right answer.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Stunning free kick but my point was that both Oliver and Jens set up walls for 35 yarders in the vid and the pic above and then criticise Joe for the same thing.

Oh I knew your point but that freekick which was largely ignored at the time because Beckham was scoring 1 free kick every 4 years

 

[Eds]

Is the right answer.

Stand in the middle of the goal they said without a wall, but Oliver that's what you did with a wall you muppet and still didn't get anywhere near it

 

[blueplan]

What can I say, I have a sharp eye and an even sharper wit.

And very disingenuous ;)