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Just put yourself in Pellegrini's place.
You have backed this guy up to now and kept him playing. Unfortunately this has not worked yet and the confidence is clearly not there.
What do you do? Keep playing him and take the flack for any further errors?
The manager's only alternative is to rest him for a while, making it clear to the player this is not a permanent change and the opportunity is there to get back in the side.
Joe is under massive pressure atm. He needs to be taken out of the spotlight and allowed to recover his confidence and form.
Keeping him playing is not working.
 
The lc game is perfect timin . Pantillimon will start and if he plays well, he'll keep his place IMO .
 
Getting really pissed off with the bashing of Joe Hart now.


Lets just get behind him now eh.

Hey remember that brilliant save he made against CSKA Moscow right at the death to get us maximum points????

Forget when that was, oh, t'was only last week.
 
another generation said:
Time to be called to account, Mr Hart. Stick on a few videos, both negative and positive, and ask him to explain his actions, whether that be to the goalkeeping coach or to the manager. If he admits his mistake with some of the clangers, then this can be worked on. However, if he maintains that it was someone else's fault for his rushes of blood, then there is a serious problem, whether that be over-confidence, ego or what. Compare the good saves with the gaffs - what decision-making process did he go through to choose one response over the other? (I'm aware that there's little time to make a decision, but other professionals manage to choose the right response!)

For me, Joe seems to have lost a lack of situational awareness and reading of the game. Some of his one-on-one, 'let's make a starfish-shape', have worked in the past, but many now seem to be a panic reaction and a crossing of the proverbial fingers, rather than a decent keeper's reaction. Is he actually closing his eyes? There's been so much discussion about Chelsea's second goal, but where was his anticipation that didn't even seem to see Schürrle's approach until after the ball was on its way in to the net? (I'm writing this based on one viewing on the telly, as I was too livid to watch any replays.)

Right. That was my two-penn'orth.
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Its been pointed out to me over the past few years that he actually does close his eyes in one on one situations when closed down , not all the time but quite often . How do you react properly ?
 
we are 2 points better off in the champions league because of Joe. Some could argue that we are 7 points worse off in the league, but I think those dropped points can be shared equally between the back 5.
 
Super David Silva 21 said:
Getting really pissed off with the bashing of Joe Hart now.


Lets just get behind him now eh.

Hey remember that brilliant save he made against CSKA Moscow right at the death to get us maximum points????

Forget when that was, oh, t'was only last week.
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On the whole, he isn't playing well enough to merit a place in a top side, but none of our defenders are either.

A small break just for a few games is probably the best idea.
 
Esteban de la Sexface said:
we are 2 points better off in the champions league because of Joe. Some could argue that we are 7 points worse off in the league, but I think those dropped points can be shared equally between the back 5.
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I am sorry? What was that? Just for a clarification. Are you suggesting that we have been blessed with 2 additional points due to hart's goalkeeping this season?
 
Sorry if it's been mentioned,I remember laughing at Joe Corrigan in his early days,every time he made a mistake he was punished,City left him out for a while and he came back a much much better keeper.
I believe Hart could do with a rest ,not physically ,mentally,another couple of bollocks ( and it can happen anytime to any keeper) and it could destroy him.
He's England's best keeper by a country mile ,but needs a rain check,tbf Roy Keane was right.
 
East Manchester said:
Sorry if it's been mentioned,I remember laughing at Joe Corrigan in his early days,every time he made a mistake he was punished,City left him out for a while and he came back a much much better keeper.
I believe Hart could do with a rest ,not physically ,mentally,another couple of bollocks ( and it can happen anytime to any keeper) and it could destroy him.
He's England's best keeper by a country mile ,but needs a rain check,tbf Roy Keane was right.
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Bet you didn't laugh as much as I did at Paddy Roche....Oh, and fuck Roy Keane.
 
To be fair to Joe, the injuries we have had in defence haven't helped and the mistake Sunday has come at a time when we almost have a fully fit squad which I think would make it easier for him. Unfortunately, his latest error has made his position untenable but it hasn't Made him a poor keeper overnight.
 
Sky Blue said:
East Manchester said:
Sorry if it's been mentioned,I remember laughing at Joe Corrigan in his early days,every time he made a mistake he was punished,City left him out for a while and he came back a much much better keeper.
I believe Hart could do with a rest ,not physically ,mentally,another couple of bollocks ( and it can happen anytime to any keeper) and it could destroy him.
He's England's best keeper by a country mile ,but needs a rain check,tbf Roy Keane was right.
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Bet you didn't laugh as much as I did at Paddy Roche....Oh, and fuck Roy Keane.
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Fucking hell paddy Roche he was diabolical and The Doc was too stubborn to drop the useless ****,he cost Utd big style,but Joe Hart is nowhere near this level he just dropped a few cods ,his performance against the Germans last season was one of the best I have seen from a keeper ever.
Roy Keane is an interesting character ( another name for a twat I suppose) whatever you say! and this occasion was right,sorry.
Hart will be in Brazil in goals for England.
 
lindy64 said:
To be fair to Joe, the injuries we have had in defence haven't helped and the mistake Sunday has come at a time when we almost have a fully fit squad which I think would make it easier for him. Unfortunately, his latest error has made his position untenable but it hasn't Made him a poor keeper overnight.
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Correct, but the deterioration in his performances hasn't occurred overnight either. Had this been his first error of the season this thread wouldn't even exist.
 
East Manchester said:
Sky Blue said:
East Manchester said:
Sorry if it's been mentioned,I remember laughing at Joe Corrigan in his early days,every time he made a mistake he was punished,City left him out for a while and he came back a much much better keeper.
I believe Hart could do with a rest ,not physically ,mentally,another couple of bollocks ( and it can happen anytime to any keeper) and it could destroy him.
He's England's best keeper by a country mile ,but needs a rain check,tbf Roy Keane was right.
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Bet you didn't laugh as much as I did at Paddy Roche....Oh, and fuck Roy Keane.
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Fucking hell paddy Roche he was diabolical and The Doc was too stubborn to drop the useless ****,he cost Utd big style,but Joe Hart is nowhere near this level he just dropped a few cods ,his performance against the Germans last season was one of the best I have seen from a keeper ever.
Roy Keane is an interesting character ( another name for a twat I suppose) whatever you say! and this occasion was right,sorry.
Hart will be in Brazil in goals for England.
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Paddy Roche - bloody hell that takes me back a few years!
Don't forget that Alex Stepney used to take the penalties at United also. Thats how bad they were then! Those were the days my friend...
 
a few games on bench might re focus joe, also might even give panty a push as well.
sometimes a manager has to say enough is enough and show a player hes not indispensable
 
Obviously Joe hasn't become a rubbish keeper overnight, but he needs a break from the first team right now - for his own sake as much as the team's. Panty will play tomorrow - I'm sure that would have been the plan anyway - and if he does ok he'll keep his place. Hopefully that'll give Joe time to sort his head out.
 
stonerblue said:
The fucking star and mirror??

You boys really are scraping the bottom of the barrell now in your search for credence.

Blues my fuckin arse.
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I take it this was aimed at me? Where in my post am I asking for Joes head? I merely stated the press who are after his head, will slag us down IF dropped...
 
TGR said:
East Manchester said:
Sky Blue said:
Bet you didn't laugh as much as I did at Paddy Roche....Oh, and fuck Roy Keane.
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Fucking hell paddy Roche he was diabolical and The Doc was too stubborn to drop the useless ****,he cost Utd big style,but Joe Hart is nowhere near this level he just dropped a few cods ,his performance against the Germans last season was one of the best I have seen from a keeper ever.
Roy Keane is an interesting character ( another name for a twat I suppose) whatever you say! and this occasion was right,sorry.
Hart will be in Brazil in goals for England.
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Paddy Roche - bloody hell that takes me back a few years!
Don't forget that Alex Stepney used to take the penalties at United also. Thats how bad they were then! Those were the days my friend...
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Stepney played over 400 games for Utd yet I never rated him,yet he made an incredible save v Leeds in a semi at Hillsborough.
Don't forget Turner! My wife was bigger than him.
 
I think it's time to admit that Joe made a blunder on Sunday BUT it is time to leave him alone. Granted he won't be reading the posts on here but he will be feeling depressed enough.

On MOTD3 (no, not watched it just seen the headline) it states, "Torres needs to be loved", maybe it is time for us to just say "JOE HART NEEDS TO BE LOVED"

Remember he is the last line of defence and if another player makes a mistake it can be rectified by someone else on the field. Only rarely does someone save Joe!!

Come on Joe, you can do it sunshine.

As always, JMHO.
 
conceding is one thing but committing absurd errors is another. pantillimon should be given a chance. and we must buy cabellero in january.
 
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