John Guidetti: 20 goals and 6 assists in 23 for Feyenoord

[sincity]

Regardless of his feat. in in the dutch league, he still doesn't have the authority to demand anything. He has to learn to be patient with his progress.

I don't think he meant it as a demand although as a fan i did think "hold on fella only Kun, Vince and Joe are guaranteed starters".
It comes across a bit as "i won't sit on the bench" and i don't like that much.

I personally believe it was said in a different context. That would be along the lines of "i feel i have done all that has been asked of me and feel i deserve my chance to play, i don't expect to start every match but i do not want to warm the bench all the time either."

If that's the case i can understand that.

Even if it was so, as a fan, I would have loved it if he showed some semblance of support to City, the club that actually owns him, during his interviews or tweets..we are after all challenging for the title..
From the looks of it, he seems to be going the Vladmir Weiss way, with his allegiance..

 

[Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot]

Van Persie was never a scorer in dutch league clown, sneijder had 17 goal one season and has never come close to scoring that many in season before, Maakay had one good season in dutch league.

How about you look at Alfonso ALves, Suarez, Kezmen, Kuyt

How about you consider the dutch league has produced some great players and for one Guidetti isnt alves or kezman or sneijder he is his own player youre never gonna know how good someone is unless there given a chance STOP COMPARING HIM TO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PLAYERS :)

btw the players I mentioned all went onto become pretty good players ?

how about you consider it has produced more flops... You didnt know what ppl were saying about alves or kzmen etc... btw you compared 'completely different players' too.

BTW the players i mentioned all went on to become flops....

Whats the point in that though?? It's like saying the Prem league is shit because we had players like Owen, Gravesen and Mcmanaman who were good in the Prem League but went to spain and were shit.......

Every league has players who do well in their league but fail in others, to say the Dutch league produces more flops then stars is stupid!!
Explain why Holland is such a great national side and current World Cup runners up if the league where 95% of these players are produced from births more flops then stars??

 

[Anonymous]

The reason people are wary about the Dutch league is as follows:

Georgios Samaras - Herenveen - 88 apps (25 goals)

Afonso Alves - Herenveen - 39 (47)

Klaas-Jan Huntelaar - Ajax - 92 (76) ....although to be fair he has re-discovered his form at Schalke, but that's taken him 3 years

Mounir El Hamdaoui - AZ Alkmaar - 80 (50)

 

[BlueCityfan]

Looking at some of his goals. Some of his goals would easily have been catched by half decent keepers. And some pretty lucky goals...like the goal when a header hit him in the arm and went in.

Think he is very overhyped atm. Probably will he will have a good career in professional football. But i don't think he is good enough atm. He will need more time to develope and match experience.

 

[WakeBlue]

Got to say what a crucial week this could be for him and Feyenoord, now joint second with AZ. They also happen to meet on the 29th in which could be the decider for a champs league playoff place. No pressure then.

 

[jellert]

Van Persie was never a scorer in dutch league clown, sneijder had 17 goal one season and has never come close to scoring that many in season before, Maakay had one good season in dutch league.

How about you look at Alfonso ALves, Suarez, Kezmen, Kuyt

How about you consider the dutch league has produced some great players and for one Guidetti isnt alves or kezman or sneijder he is his own player youre never gonna know how good someone is unless there given a chance STOP COMPARING HIM TO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PLAYERS :)

btw the players I mentioned all went onto become pretty good players ?

how about you consider it has produced more flops... You didnt know what ppl were saying about alves or kzmen etc... btw you compared 'completely different players' too.

BTW the players i mentioned all went on to become flops....

Diego Forlan, Fernando Torres at Chelsea and i can go on.. Premier League flops not from Holland bought for big money

-- 23 Apr 2012, 11:58 --

Manchester City striker John Guidetti to demand talks over his future as Feyenoord look to extend loan deal
21 Apr 2012 22:35:00
By Greg Stobart | Northern Correspondent

Feyenoord have made a request to sign Manchester City starlet John Guidetti on loan for another season as the Swedish striker demands talks with his parent club over his future.

The 20-year-old has been in stunning form this season, scoring 20 goals in 23 Eredivisie matches for the Dutch side and has become a target for Bayern Munich and a number of Italian clubs.

Feyenoord want to extend the deal next term but City are keen for Guidetti to return to the Etihad Stadium as part of manager Roberto Mancini's first team squad.

City would demand a fee of £1 million to allow Guidetti to leave on loan again next season, but are dragging their heels as they make plans for the summer transfer window.

Three of the club’s four senior strikers - Carlos Tevez, Mario Balotelli and Edin Dzeko - have all been linked with transfers away from the Premier League title challengers.

Guidetti, who spent last season on loan at Burnley, will demand talks with the City hierarchy and has already made it clear to Mancini that he wants regular first-team action.

"I don't know what Man City are thinking but I want to play football,” he said last month. “If I can't play at Manchester City - I'm a young boy - then I'll have to play somewhere else.

"If I am going to be given a chance at City then I have to be on the same level as the other boys."

City wants 1.5 million euro's next season from feyenoord if they want to keep him


People on here are suggesting that the dutch league is a Mickey Mouse league. They should know that Dutch clubs don't have any debts. When the FFP comes in that would benefit the dutch league because then they can hold their younger players for more years..

 

[SCF08]

John Guidetti is not playing today because he is ill. This is not the first time he has to miss a game because of sickness.

Hopefully he will be able to participate next week in a crucial game against AZ Alkmaar at home.

I have to correct myself. There are some rumours that Koeman didn't select Guidetti for the ADO den Haag game to piss him off and get him rowdy for next week.

 

[vamps]

Guidetti is going to miss the game versus AZ Alkmaar on sunday due to viral nerve inflammation. That game is going to be a big one as it effectively will decide who's gonna get the 2nd champions league spot. (3rd round qualif.)

Shame as he's been good in big games.

 

[Damocles]

I want to play? I don't know what City are thinking?

Bye John. Even Dzeko, a far better and much more accomplished striker is getting bench time. Self entitled git.

 

[JHK]

The reason people are wary about the Dutch league is as follows:

Georgios Samaras - Herenveen - 88 apps (25 goals)

Afonso Alves - Herenveen - 39 (47)

Klaas-Jan Huntelaar - Ajax - 92 (76) ....although to be fair he has re-discovered his form at Schalke, but that's taken him 3 years

Mounir El Hamdaoui - AZ Alkmaar - 80 (50)

Huntelaar scored 44 in 46 for Schalke this season and 31 in 50 for the Dutch national team in his carreer. He never got a chance at Real and Milan used him as a winger (how stupid can they be). El Hamdaoui was too young when he stayed at Tottenham and Samaras wasnt as good as you think he was. Not even always on the starting XI at Heerenveen. Alves is the only player in your list who was brilliant in the Dutch league, but flopped elsewhere. Of course the Premier League is much stronger, but the Dutch League is not a mickey Mouse League. Look at how many world class players raised there. It's a good League for young talents. The clubs just don't have the money to hold them and they are not allowed to make much debts.

You could also take a look at other players from the Dutch league:

Robin van Persie, Feyenoord - 61 (15)
Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Ajax 74 (35)
Henrik Larsson, Feyenoord 101 (26)
Arjen Robben, Groningen 50 (8), PSV 56 (17)
Ruud van Nistelrooy, Den Bosch 69 (17), Heerenveen 31 (13), PSV 67 (62)

By the way, his goal ratio in the Dutch league is almost equal to Cruijff, Van Basten, Romario and Ronaldo. I know it doesn't say anything, just funny to know :)

But football is not only about scoring goals. I dont think many people here watched him live, but he plays with ups and downs. He played some brilliant games but he was also quite invisible some games. I'm not very objective, but wouldn't it be great for him to play another season for Feyenoord? You can see he is really enjoying life in Rotterdam and he'll always be on the starting XI and playing for 47.000 spectators every home match. And I think the Feyenoord coaches Koeman and Van Bronckhorst could teach him a lot. Feyenoord are now 1 goal behind the second place (3rd round CL qualifier) and next season they will probably play in the Europa League at least. Guidetti couldn't get that if he goes to Fulham for example.