John Stones

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Mike D said:
I genuinely believe that Stones is a good player who may turn out to be an even better one in the future. However the figures being banded about to acquire his services are just plain ridiculous. Personally I would sooner us buy Laporte from Bilbao he would be far better value for money for a similar amount of talent.
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This. It shocks me to no end that he has garnered a reputation as being shit. I didn't even watch him the year folks thought he was good. ".A." Used to come here daily waxing lyrical about how we should Sign him and the other kid at Everton. How highly rated he was etc.

Then this season, I figured alright let see what this kid is all about. He has been very good, and you could easily project him being better on a possession based team. He is young, so there is a risk. And talent sometimes plateau. But nothing I've seen this season suggest he is going anywhere bit up.

Solid all round footballer. Including defending.
 
SWP's back said:
But who is a better judge. You and the above opinion or Pep and Josecunt.
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I didn't actually give a opinion. I said that they don't know & would be gambling on him improving, if either was to sign him, which is true.

No way in million years would either sign Stones if they believed he was going to turn in the same performances as this season. Nor would Fat Sam or anyone.

The fee is based on what he might do rather than what he is doing.

I have no idea whether he will become the player they hope, & if we sign him, I would hope Pep is right. If Mourinho signs him, I would hope it's yet another of his transfer mistakes, to add to the huge catalogue of previous failures.
 
Neville Kneville said:
The fee is based on what he might do rather than what he is doing.
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I'd rather pay for what a player could do than what he has done (Schweinsteiger) and, as we've found out plenty of times, there's no guarantee that a player in great form with replicate that for us (Bony being an obvious recent example).

Obviously there are exceptions to all three sets of circumstances but every single transfer is a gamble. I'm just happy that we're showing ambition.
 
Neville Kneville said:
I didn't actually give a opinion. I said that they don't know & would be gambling on him improving, if either was to sign him, which is true.

No way in million years would either sign Stones if they believed he was going to turn in the same performances as this season. Nor would Fat Sam or anyone.

The fee is based on what he might do rather than what he is doing.

I have no idea whether he will become the player they hope, & if we sign him, I would hope Pep is right. If Mourinho signs him, I would hope it's yet another of his transfer mistakes, to add to the huge catalogue of previous failures.
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He really needs to sign for the right manager though. when the day comes when he tries to play out, loses the ball and costs a goal. Pep would probably support him and help him probably because we'd have scored more. When he did it for Mourinho hanging onto a 1-0 lead he'd be thrown under the bus. So for him signing for Mourinho is the bigger gamble.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
I'd rather pay for what a player could do than what he has done (Schweinsteiger) and, as we've found out plenty of times, there's no guarantee that a player in great form with replicate that for us (Bony being an obvious recent example).

Obviously there are exceptions to all three sets of circumstances but every single transfer is a gamble. I'm just happy that we're showing ambition.
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