IanBishopsHaircut
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Genuine question Mr Toffee...what is your absolute honest opinion of him watching him week in week out
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John Stones
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Genuine question Mr Toffee...what is your absolute honest opinion of him watching him week in week out
mosssideblue
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I'm with Billy on this one.
We need to get Stones in asap. He plays in a critical position and he needs to be bedded in to the fluid style that Pep will play this season. If it means paying the price that Everton wants then so be it. It is far more important that we hit the ground running and we have two very important champions league games to contend with.
Besides rumour seems to be that we are going to sell Denayer for 15 mill. If that's the case then we immediately recoup the extra money shelled out for Stones.
You make this sound like it is all City's doing. What if Everton are the bottleneck?
As for we need him in ASAP, don't you think the club think this way too?
Stones will go provided:
1. Everton get the fee demanded for him, not a penny less.
2. Everton have a replacement ready to sign. This is why the bids for Koulibaly were happening.
It's very possible that Stones stays if these conditions aren't met. But that doesn't look like its happening.
The biggest problem is Everton have nothing in the pipeline at present.
They only had since Chelsea were interested more than 12 months ago to prepare ;-)The biggest problem is Everton have nothing in the pipeline at present.
As of yesterday I was told they had no players what so ever anywhere close to signing.They only had since Chelsea were interested more than 12 months ago to prepare ;-)
Well it looks like Stones will stay then. If I were EFC I'd be looking to tie him down to a new contract or his value will plummet. Do you really want an unhappy unfocussed player at your football club?Stones will go provided:
1. Everton get the fee demanded for him, not a penny less.
2. Everton have a replacement ready to sign. This is why the bids for Koulibaly were happening.
It's very possible that Stones stays if these conditions aren't met. But that doesn't look like its happening.
The slaughtered lamb
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Well it looks like Stones will stay then. If I were EFC I'd be looking to tie him down to a new contract or his value will plummet. Do you really want an unhappy unfocussed player at your football club?
He's been that for the last 12 months. It will only get worse. They're not in a great bargaining position.
Centurions
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If you want competitive leagues then Bony in the PL: 165 minutes per goal, Lukaku 180 minutes per goal. They do math differently in scouseland?You'd have to point out what you're looking at, because all I see is that Lukaku is younger and has scored more in more competitive leagues than Bony.
As of yesterday I was told they had no players what so ever anywhere close to signing.
They only got a director of football to do the transfers yesterday...
City_Sean
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We've heard "done deal" too many times this summer. The words have lost all meaning.
We haven't even put a bid in yet! We're taking our time and at this rate Stones will miss the trip to China.
They only got a director of football to do the transfers yesterday...
I know that but we have been preparing for well over 6 months so you'd have thought they would have an idea of targets and sounded them out etc
Centurions
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Whoosh...I know that but we have been preparing for well over 6 months so you'd have thought they would have an idea of targets and sounded them out etc
Lovebitesandeveryfing
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Everton mate of mine reckons they'll be fairly happy to pocket 50 mill for him (i.e. they reckon that that's the going price in this crazy world we live in, but they don't really rate him at that, any more than LIverpool fans rated Sterling at that).
Anyway, our strongest bargaining chip in all this, if it's true: the lad wants to go (as with Sterling). If that is the case, and if it is the case that he wants to go to City, it's just a question of time. Someone lined up or not, you simply cannot have an unhappy or unsettled player playing for you, not really, not match after match.
Anyway, our strongest bargaining chip in all this, if it's true: the lad wants to go (as with Sterling). If that is the case, and if it is the case that he wants to go to City, it's just a question of time. Someone lined up or not, you simply cannot have an unhappy or unsettled player playing for you, not really, not match after match.
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But you don't though, do you.
Which side of the fence will your next post be on :)
I was agreeing to your comment which is copied below mate.....but I sticking with my opinion of the way we do our transfer business and thats the same view I've had the last few transfer windows!;)
"The only answer IMO, is that we have no idea on what is happening behind the scenes"
City_Sean
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Got to say I agree with City_Sean, no flapping involved but I'm not keen on the idea we give a club the opportunity to get the replacement when we are going to be paying them £50million.
Everyone knows they are going to have the money, so it's not down to hoodwinking, and therefore we should be sorting this deal to OUR BEST BENEFIT, and that is for him to be joined up with the squad asap.
Fuck Everton.
Exactly. I wish we stopped with this niceness and just actually made the club take our money and move on.
Having Stones miss any training session is problematic. And our approach to transfers this summer seems to be baffling.
Lovebitesandeveryfing
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Anybody else reckon that this Manolas business might, just might, be something ‘leaked’ to the press by our PR people just as a way of putting a lever on Everton, along the lines of “right, hurry up, mateys, because otherwise we're moving on”? In fact, rumour and gossip are, in and of themselves, a form of manoeuvring, if you can control them. It seems likely to me that players and their agents read the press and twitter feeds just the same as anyone else.
dannyboiblue
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Everton mate of mine reckons they'll be fairly happy to pocket 50 mill for him (i.e. they reckon that that's the going price in this crazy world we live in, but they don't really rate him at that, any more than LIverpool fans rated Sterling at that).
Anyway, our strongest bargaining chip in all this, if it's true: the lad wants to go (as with Sterling). If that is the case, and if it is the case that he wants to go to City, it's just a question of time. Someone lined up or not, you simply cannot have an unhappy or unsettled player playing for you, not really, not match after match.
They never do as the player is leaving the club they support. If he stays and the deal colapses then they will say hes worth 50m again.
Neville Kneville
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Exactly. I wish we stopped with this niceness and just actually made the club take our money and move on.
Having Stones miss any training session is problematic. And our approach to transfers this summer seems to be baffling.
No it doesn't, at all. And we can't 'make' anyone do anything. They'd just say 'stick another 5 mil on & it's a deal' for a couple of fucking friendly games in China.
Or if they want more money than our valuation , don't buy him. Simple.
mosssideblue
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Exactly. I wish we stopped with this niceness and just actually made the club take our money and move on.
Having Stones miss any training session is problematic. And our approach to transfers this summer seems to be baffling.
wtf, are you on the wind up?
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