John Stones

[kas_tippler]

Surprised Chelsea aren't back in.

Chelsea know his heart is set on City and Pep but there's an impasse on the fee and the structure of payment.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Chelsea know his heart is set on City and Pep but there's an impasse on the fee and the structure of payment.

lol

 

[ono]

How many times did you watch him play last season?

I have probably watched Denayer a dozen or so times over the last two years, and for Stones you could probably double that. My argument isn't that Denayer is better, my argument is that we don't know who is the better fit out of the two to play in our set up, so to spend 50m at the expense of an equally promising player just seems ludicrous.

We are buying based on potential with no actual track record of showing enough patience to persevere with a defender unless he hits the ground running. Kompany is probably the only centre half of the last 6 or 7 years who has been a proper mainstay for longer than 18 months (barring injuries). So you will have to excuse my pessimism when it comes to me expecting us to show patience with a young kid, who was in and out of a midtable side last season, while we are trying to compete on four fronts. And you will have excuse my bewilderment at us spending 50m on the privilege when we have a player of similar age, ability and reputation playing in his exact position already.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

i think we should just bid what everton want and get this deal done. a fantastic young english defender.

 

[blueparrot]

I have probably watched Denayer a dozen or so times over the last two years, and for Stones you could probably double that. My argument isn't that Denayer is better, my argument is that we don't know who is the better fit out of the two to play in our set up, so to spend 50m at the expense of an equally promising player just seems ludicrous.

We are buying based on potential with no actual track record of showing enough patience to persevere with a defender unless he hits the ground running. Kompany is probably the only centre half of the last 6 or 7 years who has been a proper mainstay for longer than 18 months (barring injuries). So you will have to excuse my pessimism when it comes to me expecting us to show patience with a young kid, who was in and out of a midtable side last season, while we are trying to compete on four fronts. And you will have excuse my bewilderment at us spending 50m on the privilege when we have a player of similar age, ability and reputation playing in his exact position already.

Your quite right we don't know who is a better fit, but I did hear that Pep Guardiola bloke isn't a bad judge.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Your quite right we don't know who is a better fit, but I did hear that Pep Guardiola bloke isn't a bad judge.

He may judge both equally & or be wrong, like he was with Ibrahimovic & several other Barca signings.

Personally I don't object to Stones, if we also have a look at Denayer & see what he can do. If we ditch Denayer without having a look first, it's a fucking stupid move, Pep or no Pep.

 

[blueparrot]

He may judge both equally & or be wrong, like he was with Ibrahimovic & several other Barca signings.

Personally I don't object to Stones, if we also have a look at Denayer & see what he can do. If we ditch Denayer without having a look first, it's a fucking stupid move, Pep or no Pep.

Course he can be wrong, but I think we know enough about him to know he will have had a good look at Denayer and my guess is he will keep him here as our 4 th centre back , but if he doesnt it may be a mistake but it wont be because he hasn't bothered looking. I think the reason we seem to be out of the fullback market is from what he has seen from Angelino and Maffeo.

 

[lazerblue]

i dont get this 50mil price tag, who dreams these figures up, that puts him in the bracket of the best in the world and hes done nothing yet to suggest hes that.
when we won at everton dzeko made him look very ordinary indeed

 

[mosssideblue]

I have probably watched Denayer a dozen or so times over the last two years, and for Stones you could probably double that. My argument isn't that Denayer is better, my argument is that we don't know who is the better fit out of the two to play in our set up, so to spend 50m at the expense of an equally promising player just seems ludicrous.

We are buying based on potential with no actual track record of showing enough patience to persevere with a defender unless he hits the ground running. Kompany is probably the only centre half of the last 6 or 7 years who has been a proper mainstay for longer than 18 months (barring injuries). So you will have to excuse my pessimism when it comes to me expecting us to show patience with a young kid, who was in and out of a midtable side last season, while we are trying to compete on four fronts. And you will have excuse my bewilderment at us spending 50m on the privilege when we have a player of similar age, ability and reputation playing in his exact position already.

Pity the club feel differently then eh?

 

[mosssideblue]

i dont get this 50mil price tag, who dreams these figures up, that puts him in the bracket of the best in the world and hes done nothing yet to suggest hes that.
when we won at everton dzeko made him look very ordinary indeed

Selling club can put whatever amount they want for their players. If someone is willing to pay it, you could argue they got it right. Always maintained its the buying club who actually put the value on a player, not the selling club