I'm reliably informed that if Bony goes the other way the payment structure will rely on Bonys goal rate.
The value of the deal "£50m" is based on Wilfs transfer value plus cash. £10m is offset against performances.
I don't know the exact figures involved but let's say for example if City win the title we would need to pay Everton an additional £5m, but if Wilf bags 20 goals, that £5m will be cancelled out.
This is a complex deal, so I wouldn't expect it to close quickly as it stands. If Everton decide not to take Wilf, then it makes the deal easier to put together...
Fucking hell so we'd have to rely on Bony scoring goals to get some money back?!
Or have I read that wrong??
Sort of.
Not to get money back, but the final transfer fee would be based on city's domestic and champions league performances, in conjunction with Wilfs goal return for Everton
Trouble is we are viewed as having an unlimited money even though we were done for FFP so they know they can really ask what they want and within reason we will pay it,unless we never want to buy any new players then we have to pay upI would go with that, Bony's value in the deal because it's not easy to offload him due to his wage (£100k + 20k) and we free up space for a striker signing. Thought the deal above is complicated I don't see why it can't be done. It's the new world of performance based payments.
Yeah, but wouldn't it be so, so City for Bony to go there and bang in 20-25 goals in his first season with them. Many on here have said he's been used badly by us, although I'm not quite sure how. Perhaps they'll know how to use him.
For 50 MIL who is better? Available? Willing to come to city or England full stop for that matter?
That's what I'm hoping, that £50m is inclusive of a generous list of addons. but if £50m is upfront. for me it's not at this moment fair value for a player who at times made lapses in judgment that ultimately cost his team the game. He is a great outfield player and technically strong too. But £50m is asking for a flawless performer and we are expecting that in our next CB upgrade. £30-35m with performance based addons around £15mil would be fair, though I doubt everton would bite.
In today's market, he is. Hopefully in 10 years he will be out rockNot worth anywhere near £50m.
£50m is a lot for a player that's just above average. Pep should work with the CB's we have right now before making a decision on purchasing stones.
I think this whole ball playing CB thing is over rated. None of Real or Atletico CB's are ball playing CB's. While Pep was at Bayern ,he only had one ball playing CB (Boateng), Ramos / Pepe aren't ball playing CB's but I bet we would all jump at the chance to sign either one of them. You can't just throw 50m on player just because he is "comfortable on the ball", besides you don't need ALL your CB's to be ball playing CB's, Mascherano isn't, Pique is. Pep can make it work with Mangala being the brute ramos/pepe type and Vinny the "ball playing" Pique type.
I think this whole ball playing CB thing is over rated. None of Real or Atletico CB's are ball playing CB's. While Pep was at Bayern ,he only had one ball playing CB (Boateng), Ramos / Pepe aren't ball playing CB's but I bet we would all jump at the chance to sign either one of them. You can't just throw 50m on player just because he is "comfortable on the ball", besides you don't need ALL your CB's to be ball playing CB's, Mascherano isn't, Pique is. Pep can make it work with Mangala being the brute ramos/pepe type and Vinny the "ball playing" Pique type.
I think it depends on what you mean by ball playing, Pepe is really comfortable on the ball Ramos fairly comfortable and Mascherano very comfortable, they might not be play makers but compared with Mangala they are Glen Hoddle and Pirlo rolled into one. Quite a bit better than Ota as well I would say.I think this whole ball playing CB thing is over rated. None of Real or Atletico CB's are ball playing CB's. While Pep was at Bayern ,he only had one ball playing CB (Boateng), Ramos / Pepe aren't ball playing CB's but I bet we would all jump at the chance to sign either one of them. You can't just throw 50m on player just because he is "comfortable on the ball", besides you don't need ALL your CB's to be ball playing CB's, Mascherano isn't, Pique is. Pep can make it work with Mangala being the brute ramos/pepe type and Vinny the "ball playing" Pique type.