John Stones

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mancityscot said:
thats your opinion, and you're fully entitled to that. i just take a different approach, i feel the money is obscene for someone who is barely worth half that, with all the fantastic young players and defenders out there, we are ending up paying 50 MILLION POUNDS for a player who cant get in ahead of chris smalling in the england side
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This lad will be our CB for the next ten years-50m is fuck all over that time period.
 
mancityscot said:
thats your opinion, and you're fully entitled to that. i just take a different approach, i feel the money is obscene for someone who is barely worth half that, with all the fantastic young players and defenders out there, we are ending up paying 50 MILLION POUNDS for a player who cant get in ahead of chris smalling in the england side
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I think Pep is a slight upgrade on Hodgson, and if he thinks Stones is worth the money and effort, I am tempted to go with his judgement.
 
Sky Blue said:
You don't like Hart, you don't like Sterling and you have a right downer on Stones. Maybe if he was called McStones he'd be worth the 50m !
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i'm saying hart is susceptible to quite a few errors, sterling is downright poor for the money we paid, and i think we are overpaying massively for john stones. its a forum, everyone is entitled to their own opinion
 
mancityscot said:
i'm saying hart is susceptible to quite a few errors, sterling is downright poor for the money we paid, and i think we are overpaying massively for john stones. its a forum, everyone is entitled to their own opinion
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Ah the classic get out of every transfer forum muppet. Right up to the gratuitous use of the word massive.
 
flb said:
This lad will be our CB for the next ten years-50m is fuck all over that time period.
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This was our thoughts when we spent +40 Million on Mangala.

We thoughts now we have the experts ( Ferran & Txiki ) who built Barcelona empire and they know about football more than all of us, but it seems a lot of their judgements & selections were questionable.
 
51 million for a defender, any defender, is a bad use of funds. And this is not about whether it's my money or not. It's simply about opportunity cost.

No defender is worth 50 million. Not Silva, not Hummels, or the new Bluemoon favorite Bonnuci. Defenders don't impact the game enough for that.

But Stones is a fantastic footballer.
 
Stones has a lot to learn but he is only young so time is on his side. i think he might need a season or so to settle in and become the player he can be. will he have a more succesful carrer with better coaches and teammates almost definitely so.
 
Dax777 said:
51 million for a defender, any defender, is a bad use of funds. And this is not about whether it's my money or not. It's simply about opportunity cost.

No defender is worth 50 million. Not Silva, not Hummels, or the new Bluemoon favorite Bonnuci. Defenders don't impact the game enough for that.

But Stones is a fantastic footballer.
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It's the english tax Dax,even pep has commented on how much english players cost
 
Dax777 said:
51 million for a defender, any defender, is a bad use of funds. And this is not about whether it's my money or not. It's simply about opportunity cost.

No defender is worth 50 million. Not Silva, not Hummels, or the new Bluemoon favorite Bonnuci. Defenders don't impact the game enough for that.

But Stones is a fantastic footballer.
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You're stuck in the past.
 
Dax777 said:
51 million for a defender, any defender, is a bad use of funds. And this is not about whether it's my money or not. It's simply about opportunity cost.

No defender is worth 50 million. Not Silva, not Hummels, or the new Bluemoon favorite Bonnuci. Defenders don't impact the game enough for that.

But Stones is a fantastic footballer.
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Don't agree with that, a defender can have as much of an impact as an attacker, especially in big games. If a peak Maldini or Nesta or Thuram(3 modern-ish defensive 'legends') were playing right now and were available for £50m i'd expect City to be all over that.

I agree Stones is a fantastic footballer though, he's expensive due to his massive potential and he's English.
 
mancityscot said:
thats your opinion, and you're fully entitled to that. i just take a different approach, i feel the money is obscene for someone who is barely worth half that, with all the fantastic young players and defenders out there, we are ending up paying 50 MILLION POUNDS for a player who cant get in ahead of chris smalling in the england side
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It's Sterling all over again with a huge price tag on his head. Every mistake will be highlighted in the papers to be a 50m error. It's NOT my money is the silliest thing I have heard in this forum repeated over and over, even after all the issues Sterling had to face is still fresh in our minds. Not even Everton fans have such high hopes for him.
 
Dax777 said:
51 million for a defender, any defender, is a bad use of funds. And this is not about whether it's my money or not. It's simply about opportunity cost.

No defender is worth 50 million. Not Silva, not Hummels, or the new Bluemoon favorite Bonnuci. Defenders don't impact the game enough for that.

But Stones is a fantastic footballer.
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So a player who can play out from the back and create overload advantages further up the field doesn’t impact enough?

I grant you such a player may never score the goal or create the opportunity, but they are key in creating opportunities for more advance players to exploit space.

If he can do this then he'll be worth it. It would also be hoped he can do the basics of defending also.
 
mancityscot said:
well i hope your right. as we've seen with sterling, the price tag can prove to be quite a burden, lets hope that wont be the case with stones
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Its no different to any other transfer out there, Di Maria £60m, possible Pogba £100m, Kante £30m to Chelsea

All clubs get some wrong, jury is still out on Sterling but personally I done see the problem in £50m for Stones, Pep will have the whole defense and Midfield playing as a unit-thi kid is the real deal in the right team.
 
Dax777 said:
51 million for a defender, any defender, is a bad use of funds. And this is not about whether it's my money or not. It's simply about opportunity cost.

No defender is worth 50 million. Not Silva, not Hummels, or the new Bluemoon favorite Bonnuci. Defenders don't impact the game enough for that.

But Stones is a fantastic footballer.
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£51m for a 22 year old talent like Stones is a very good use of funds. Position is irrelevant.

Like Sterling you have the potential of a decades service and greatly reduce to the risk and need to spend shitty amounts every other summer to rectify a fuck up or average signing. The Delphs of the world may seem like drops in the ocean but they add up.

He's an investment and a bloody good one.
 
vmsuhail said:
It's Sterling all over again with a huge price tag on his head. Every mistake will be highlighted in the papers to be a 50m error. It's NOT my money is the silliest thing I have heard in this forum repeated over and over, even after all the issues Sterling had to face is still fresh in our minds. Not even Everton fans have such high hopes for him.
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How much do you suggest we spend then on a top CB? Your saying hes a waste of money without saying who is potentially better.

United have just signed Bailley for £30m who hasn't anywhere near the same experience as Stones either in a top league or internationally.

The thing is it isn't your money-the club can afford it so whats the problem?
 
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