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Not sure Tosin is ready, and what worries me is he lacks the actual footballing ability. Denayer and Mangala aren't good enough, so not signing Stones would be a huge disappointment for me.

"Actual footballing ability"

What does that even mean? It's a complete nothing of a phrase.

Tosin has always been praised for his ability and skill on the ball, if that's what you're alluding to, so you're simply wrong there. If he has a problem it seems to be concentration - pretty common for young CB's.
 
Not sure Tosin is ready, and what worries me is he lacks the actual footballing ability. Denayer and Mangala aren't good enough, so not signing Stones would be a huge disappointment for me.

On what basis is Stones a saviour for us? He has shown very little that he is a key signing for us. I agree it would be disappointing not to sign a CB but Stones isn't a top CB and not is he worth the money requested. Bonucci yes, Stones no.

A simple change of tactics and defensive set up will bolster us.
 
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On what basis is Stones a saviour for us? He has shone very little that he is a key sogning for us. I agree it would be disappointing not to sign a CB but Stones isn't a top CB and not is he worth the money requested. Bonucci yes, Stones no.

A simple change of tactics and defensive set up will bolster us.
So true
 
On what basis is Stones a saviour for us? He has shone very little that he is a key sogning for us. I agree it would be disappointing not to sign a CB but Stones isn't a top CB and not is he worth the money requested. Bonucci yes, Stones no.

A simple change of tactics and defensive set up will bolster us.

Stones will be absolute dynamite mate. He possesses every attribute that Pep requires his defenders to have. Bonucci is a pipe dream.
 
On what basis is Stones a saviour for us? He has shone very little that he is a key sogning for us. I agree it would be disappointing not to sign a CB but Stones isn't a top CB and not is he worth the money requested. Bonucci yes, Stones no.

A simple change of tactics and defensive set up will bolster us.

I don't think we are going to see a dramatic change of tactics more the proper application of work needed to get the best out of our set up. Pep's and Pellegrini's sides aim for similar things but Pep's teams seem to do the hard graft needed to make the game plan work.

We are going to press more, we're going to prepare more for each team we face and hopefully we work hard on our set pieces.

My concern is less about our defence more what's in front. Out back four (or back 3 when Kolarov was ambling back) was regularly exposed as there was little to stop runners coming through. How often did our centre halves and either Fernando or Fernandinho face 4 man counters?

If our midfield and forwards do their jobs this should be a far less regular occurrence. I would have concerns as to whether Yaya can press as effectively as we will need our midfielders to.
 
Footballing ability is his ability when in control of the ball. He looks like a rabbit in the headlights.

I would say this about Stones
Stones will be absolute dynamite mate. He possesses every attribute that Pep requires his defenders to have. Bonucci is a pipe dream.

Not knocking you as I rate you as a poster, but the above is wishful imho.

Stones will be dynamite, said like a wishful prophecy. I like Stones passing, I like his confidence and I like his composure. But he is so unproven its untrue, he is coming off the back of a bad season and didnt even push his way into the starting eleven for a piss poor England defence, yet costs 50m. Walk away!!!
 
Fair point about Rio there matey. It'll never get mentioned in the press though. £30m with 14 years of inflation...£50m for and English lad of 23 don't seem to bad to me.

Exactly, if we spent £50 mill on Stones and he spends 10 years here and we were to win 10 trophies it would have turned out to be a bargain.
 
I would say this about Stones


Not knocking you as I rate you as a poster, but the above is wishful imho.

Stones will be dynamite, said like a wishful prophecy. I like Stones passing, I like his confidence and I like his composure. But he is so unproven its untrue, he is coming off the back of a bad season and didnt even push his way into the starting eleven for a piss poor England defence, yet costs 50m. Walk away!!!

I would argue that Stones had a buffoon in charge last season who hindered his development. Everton were a shambles at times, with little or no balance to their team.

If Stones was here, our team would be setup much better, combined with players in better positions to receive the ball when we win it back.
 
Heard different stories, but we all now how this is going to end and frankly, for Everton, the best thing to do is to solve the problem asap.

It not a certainty. He could very well stay at Everton.

IMO (now this really is just my opinion, not something I've heard) it will go to deadline day knowing Everton.
 
I would argue that Stones had a buffoon in charge last season who hindered his development. Everton were a shambles at times, with little or no balance to their team.

If Stones was here, our team would be setup much better, combined with players in better positions to receive the ball when we win it back.

Could the same not be said for our bunch?
 
Pep will have the defense set up properly, picking up runners and man marking, unlike Pellers "quick rush to 18yrd line and hold for offside". If Stones arrives or not last years defending will be just a fading memory.
 
It not a certainty. He could very well stay at Everton.

IMO (now this really is just my opinion, not something I've heard) it will go to deadline day knowing Everton.
And risk having an unhappy player for another 12 months who's already told them that he wants to progress (which means leaving Everton). That'll be 2 seasons where your board have screwed up over Stones, I think we'll hold at the £40 million mark and make them sweat.
 
Besic being out for 6 months for everyon could have an imlact.
Maybe they need cash to buy a midfielder to replace him
 
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