John Terry [Merged]

[Nixon_The_Bike_Thief]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Allegedly we are offering him £150,000 a year,

You offer him that and he's ours in a heartbeat ;o)

 

[auction294]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

fulhamroad22

that's a good reasoned argument for him to stay with you. Very plausible. Refreshing to see a rival supporter posting some sense on here as usually other fans views are rather partisan which invariably leads to reciprical flaming.

I think until the player actually comes out and states his desire to remain with you then the doubts and rumours will persist.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Allegedly we are offering him £150,000 a year, so to bring him level with Lampard, so that surely covers recognition and respect? We have put in an offer for Ribery and plan on signing Sneidjer with the change, so that covers ambition. We will be in the running for the title this year, and, I think this season the trophy will be going South purely because United are much weaker than last season and Liverpool haven't improved, where as if you believe the papers we will have improved hugely, so that covers opportunities for silverware.

We are offering him massive amounts of money, though not the monster wage being offered by City, so that is the only reason I can imagine he'd want to go.

I mean City will have success but, in all respect, they are building up that success. It's not like with Chelsea where we had a Champions League and cup winning squad before the money (and the money turned us into a title winning team within two seasons). This is a job where nearly the whole club with have to be overhauled, and I can't see that happening quickly. Also, the new players will have to learn how to work as a team- this is the problem Chelsea had in 2003/04 (the first season of our buyout) where there were so many new players, it was hard to get them to work together.

So, it's my belief that Terry would either be benched, sold or retired by the time City are in Chelsea's position, and that's why I believe there is only one reason why Terry would leave the club at this point in time.

Fair post. I'd be happy for you to win the league again - anyone but united

 

[onceabluealways]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

If City happened to get Terry (still think this is a long shot) along with other known targets - Eto, Tevez and Lescott then we will seriousely be in the hunt.

Terry Lescott and Bridge already know each other from England - And strikers with the class of Eto etc should soon adapt to the other players around them. Its unclear which formation MH will play so not sure how the midfield will stack up.

 

[bluemonkey71]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

thats the thing its the big "if we sign". We haven't signed any of these people yet...

If we don't then we should get top 6

 

[Nixon_The_Bike_Thief]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Still dont honestly think we will get JT and the points you make FulhamRd are valid ones. I just want to hear it from JT even once and that will do for me, end of story move on, dont even be tempted to go back for him again but its his lack of a statement that is really irking me ? I dont know why because my rational side says no chance, his silence rightly or wrongly is the only thing keeping me intrigued in this speculation.

 

[fulhamroad22]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Allegedly we are offering him £150,000 a year, so to bring him level with Lampard, so that surely covers recognition and respect? We have put in an offer for Ribery and plan on signing Sneidjer with the change, so that covers ambition. We will be in the running for the title this year, and, I think this season the trophy will be going South purely because United are much weaker than last season and Liverpool haven't improved, where as if you believe the papers we will have improved hugely, so that covers opportunities for silverware.

We are offering him massive amounts of money, though not the monster wage being offered by City, so that is the only reason I can imagine he'd want to go.

I mean City will have success but, in all respect, they are building up that success. It's not like with Chelsea where we had a Champions League and cup winning squad before the money (and the money turned us into a title winning team within two seasons). This is a job where nearly the whole club with have to be overhauled, and I can't see that happening quickly. Also, the new players will have to learn how to work as a team- this is the problem Chelsea had in 2003/04 (the first season of our buyout) where there were so many new players, it was hard to get them to work together.

So, it's my belief that Terry would either be benched, sold or retired by the time City are in Chelsea's position, and that's why I believe there is only one reason why Terry would leave the club at this point in time.

allegedly being the operative word.

it all really depends on whether Roman would prefer to cash in so that Ancelotti can rebuild properly as it was quite clear before the end of the season that you have to balance the books this summer.

That is a long term plan- to break even. But judging by our transfer plan, I wouldn't say so at all. Chairman Bruce "Cowboy" Buck stated that there would be two plays out and three or four including a 'marquee' signing would come in. I think the intention was more to strengthen our squad, and remember winning the league or Champions League would bring in a lot of revenue to help us break even.

People are forgetting that we are still owned by a mega-rich oligarch (and we can outspend pretty much anyone apart from City and Real), the long term plan is to basically not rely on investment so much. I reckon this will happen to City when a team is built, also. However, the team need to strengthen and they have said as much when speaking to the press.

Another quote was that new players will be funded by players that were sold- I'd imagine we still have some left over as our sales have bought us Sturridge, Turnbull and Zhirkov. The last part of the quote is, if a special player is available, Roman will pay for it.

 

[Johnny_on]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Allegedly we are offering him £150,000 a year, so to bring him level with Lampard, so that surely covers recognition and respect? We have put in an offer for Ribery and plan on signing Sneidjer with the change, so that covers ambition. We will be in the running for the title this year, and, I think this season the trophy will be going South purely because United are much weaker than last season and Liverpool haven't improved, where as if you believe the papers we will have improved hugely, so that covers opportunities for silverware.

We are offering him massive amounts of money, though not the monster wage being offered by City, so that is the only reason I can imagine he'd want to go.

I mean City will have success but, in all respect, they are building up that success. It's not like with Chelsea where we had a Champions League and cup winning squad before the money (and the money turned us into a title winning team within two seasons). This is a job where nearly the whole club with have to be overhauled, and I can't see that happening quickly. Also, the new players will have to learn how to work as a team- this is the problem Chelsea had in 2003/04 (the first season of our buyout) where there were so many new players, it was hard to get them to work together.

So, it's my belief that Terry would either be benched, sold or retired by the time City are in Chelsea's position, and that's why I believe there is only one reason why Terry would leave the club at this point in time.

Some fair points i think, and its good to not have the usual fighting tripe that comes on here... However i dont think you can make direct comparisons to what happened when you were taken over. Despite similarities, there are a ton of factors that are different, plus this is sport. Sport being completely un-predictable. We dont know how well people will gel.. It could take days not years, we dont know about injurys to us or other teams, we dont know about signings (yet).....

I just think that in terms of Terry, maybe you can get 'one club' depression.... Same club every day for 15 years, not knowing whether you could test yourself somewhere else.... Think about Gareth Barry, its exactly why we got him.

Being at this part of the development is the most exciting part... I bet you, your best title was your first...

Like i say, you have alot of good points and maybe right, but there is alot more to consider... Its not just about the money...

 

[only1paulsimpson]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Allegedly we are offering him £150,000 a year, so to bring him level with Lampard, so that surely covers recognition and respect? We have put in an offer for Ribery and plan on signing Sneidjer with the change, so that covers ambition. We will be in the running for the title this year, and, I think this season the trophy will be going South purely because United are much weaker than last season and Liverpool haven't improved, where as if you believe the papers we will have improved hugely, so that covers opportunities for silverware.

We are offering him massive amounts of money, though not the monster wage being offered by City, so that is the only reason I can imagine he'd want to go.

I mean City will have success but, in all respect, they are building up that success. It's not like with Chelsea where we had a Champions League and cup winning squad before the money (and the money turned us into a title winning team within two seasons). This is a job where nearly the whole club with have to be overhauled, and I can't see that happening quickly. Also, the new players will have to learn how to work as a team- this is the problem Chelsea had in 2003/04 (the first season of our buyout) where there were so many new players, it was hard to get them to work together.

So, it's my belief that Terry would either be benched, sold or retired by the time City are in Chelsea's position, and that's why I believe there is only one reason why Terry would leave the club at this point in time.

some good points there,however terry IS interested in what we have to say,he is putting in a transfer request.
maybe he sees city as a new challenge and a final big contract for him and his family before he hangs up his boots.
yes we are in a transition,that doesnt mean to say it will take us as long as it did chelsea,we have a lot more money to spend for a start.
city not being in europe may actually be a good thing for terry,he may be thinking thats suits him with the world cup coming up.
we should know one way or another in the next few days.

 

[Blue Train]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

I mean City will have success but, in all respect, they are building up that success. It's not like with Chelsea where we had a Champions League and cup winning squad before the money (and the money turned us into a title winning team within two seasons).

Anyone else tired of hearing this Chelsea myth that they had no money before Abramovich came in? The bankrolling of Chelsea's success started before the Russian embezzler showed his freaky little face.

It should be easy to remember who started buying your Champs League place and trophies - you've got a stand named after the bloke!