John Terry [Merged]

[johnmc]

makes me laugh people who say wobbly gob is a better player than terry, he is in me hole.

Any centre back who's first instinct is to back off is a liability.

Just cos baconhead paid 30 million for him doesn't make him a good defender. I'd have Terry, Dunnie, Hyppia, Carragher over the likes of wobbly gob and Woodgate 100% of the time

Ferdinand is a far better footballer for me. He reads the game a lot better and is much faster which is why you don't see these last ditch challenges - trust me Eto'o would not have gone past wio like he did vidic in the CL final. Terry may be a better defender but not a better footballer for me

 

[gh_mcfc]

Course not, they came to City for the same reasons that Drogba, Robben, Essien, Cole, Carvalho, Mikel, Bridge, SWP, Parker, Ballack, Shevchenko, Kezman (remember him), Johnson, the list goes on...moved to Chelski in Roman's early years...

Lets get one thing straight, the idea of the modern day footballing mercenary...it's pointless. They are professionals who are looking for the best deal they can get because their professional lifespan is much shorter than that of people in other jobs...

It's a hollow accusation which supporters cling to, and which the media reinforce when it suits them...

You seem to forget that those players came to the club that was already on the rise. Sure,they wanted money but the club's ambition was already backed up by performances on the pitch. Even before Roman arrived we have consistently finished in the top six for several years, won a couple of FA Cups and a League Cup and had a few big names associated with the team like Gullit,Vially,Zola,Desailly etc.

We were already in the CL when Abramovich bought the club which made a big difference, so even the first wave of signings in 2003 knew they will have a chance to play in Europe's top competition. Out of the players you mentioned Drogba,Kezman,Robben & Carvalho joined the team that has finished second in the league and reached CL semis and Sheva,Ballack,Essien & Mikel came to us after we already won the league.

Surely you can see the difference between doing that and leaving clubs like Arsenal and United to join City after the season you've had.

And that early sucess for Chelsea came on the back of Matthew Hardings little investment and big Kens subsequent overspending. Did DiMatteo, Gullit, Viali and the like get paid minimum wage. You lot have short memories. You were in Danger of going under (just like us) until mr Harding put in a hell of a lot of cash (for the time). Chelsea didn`t just develop on the back of a great youth policy in fact again were in not for Mr A you wer in danger of popping off due to excessive spending to get you on the verge of top 4. Get over it and get used to us. To be honest I am getting pretty sick of all this but Chealsea were alredy on the verge of something when mr A took over., so were bloody Newcastle and Leeds. The only reason any team were challenging at any time is because they spent what it took at that time. Compare the Markets...... simple

 

[bobrivers]

You seem to forget that those players came to the club that was already on the rise. Sure,they wanted money but the club's ambition was already backed up by performances on the pitch. Even before Roman arrived we have consistently finished in the top six for several years, won a couple of FA Cups and a League Cup and had a few big names associated with the team like Gullit,Vially,Zola,Desailly etc.

We were already in the CL when Abramovich bought the club which made a big difference, so even the first wave of signings in 2003 knew they will have a chance to play in Europe's top competition. Out of the players you mentioned Drogba,Kezman,Robben & Carvalho joined the team that has finished second in the league and reached CL semis and Sheva,Ballack,Essien & Mikel came to us after we already won the league.

Surely you can see the difference between doing that and leaving clubs like Arsenal and United to join City after the season you've had.

And that early sucess for Chelsea came on the back o Matthew Harding little investment. You lot have short memories. You were in Danger of going under (just like us) until mr Harding put in a hell of a lot of cash (for the time). Chelsea didn`t just develop on the back of a great youth policy in fact again were in not for Mr A you wer in danger of popping off due to excessive spending to get you on the verge of top 4. Get oover it andget used to us.

I think it was explained many times over on this particular thread that Matthew Harding had fuck all to do with investing in new players.

 

[rnmcfc]

Course not, they came to City for the same reasons that Drogba, Robben, Essien, Cole, Carvalho, Mikel, Bridge, SWP, Parker, Ballack, Shevchenko, Kezman (remember him), Johnson, the list goes on...moved to Chelski in Roman's early years...

Lets get one thing straight, the idea of the modern day footballing mercenary...it's pointless. They are professionals who are looking for the best deal they can get because their professional lifespan is much shorter than that of people in other jobs...

It's a hollow accusation which supporters cling to, and which the media reinforce when it suits them...

You seem to forget that those players came to the club that was already on the rise. Sure,they wanted money but the club's ambition was already backed up by performances on the pitch. Even before Roman arrived we have consistently finished in the top six for several years, won a couple of FA Cups and a League Cup and had a few big names associated with the team like Gullit,Vially,Zola,Desailly etc.

We were already in the CL when Abramovich bought the club which made a big difference, so even the first wave of signings in 2003 knew they will have a chance to play in Europe's top competition. Out of the players you mentioned Drogba,Kezman,Robben & Carvalho joined the team that has finished second in the league and reached CL semis and Sheva,Ballack,Essien & Mikel came to us after we already won the league.

Surely you can see the difference between doing that and leaving clubs like Arsenal and United to join City after the season you've had.

it also has to be remembered that to get Chelsea to be successful prior to Abramovich Ken Bates saddled the club with so much debt that the club was very close to going under

 

[gh_mcfc]

And that early sucess for Chelsea came on the back o Matthew Harding little investment. You lot have short memories. You were in Danger of going under (just like us) until mr Harding put in a hell of a lot of cash (for the time). Chelsea didn`t just develop on the back of a great youth policy in fact again were in not for Mr A you wer in danger of popping off due to excessive spending to get you on the verge of top 4. Get oover it andget used to us.

I think it was explained many times over on this particular thread that Matthew Harding had fuck all to do with investing in new players.

And Viali, Dimataoe, Gullit, Hoddle etc... all paid for minimum wage and it was Chealseas fantastic youthpolicy which put the up there. Bollox.. Just like Leeds and Newcastle you started to challenge because you spent more. Where ever the money came from

 

[bobrivers]

You seem to forget that those players came to the club that was already on the rise. Sure,they wanted money but the club's ambition was already backed up by performances on the pitch. Even before Roman arrived we have consistently finished in the top six for several years, won a couple of FA Cups and a League Cup and had a few big names associated with the team like Gullit,Vially,Zola,Desailly etc.

We were already in the CL when Abramovich bought the club which made a big difference, so even the first wave of signings in 2003 knew they will have a chance to play in Europe's top competition. Out of the players you mentioned Drogba,Kezman,Robben & Carvalho joined the team that has finished second in the league and reached CL semis and Sheva,Ballack,Essien & Mikel came to us after we already won the league.

Surely you can see the difference between doing that and leaving clubs like Arsenal and United to join City after the season you've had.

it also has to be remembered that to get Chelsea to be successful prior to Abramovich Ken Bates saddled the club with so much debt that the club was very close to going under

That's true, but it doesn't change my argument. The point I was making was that players joining Chelsea since Roman arrived could cite ambition along with money as reasons to sign because they were joining a better team at the time. Even Ballack with Bayern and Sheva with AC Milan who are both in high wages could reason that at the time Chelsea was a better bet to win trophies that their former clubs.

 

[Anonymous]

Course not, they came to City for the same reasons that Drogba, Robben, Essien, Cole, Carvalho, Mikel, Bridge, SWP, Parker, Ballack, Shevchenko, Kezman (remember him), Johnson, the list goes on...moved to Chelski in Roman's early years...

Lets get one thing straight, the idea of the modern day footballing mercenary...it's pointless. They are professionals who are looking for the best deal they can get because their professional lifespan is much shorter than that of people in other jobs...

It's a hollow accusation which supporters cling to, and which the media reinforce when it suits them...

You seem to forget that those players came to the club that was already on the rise. Sure,they wanted money but the club's ambition was already backed up by performances on the pitch. Even before Roman arrived we have consistently finished in the top six for several years, won a couple of FA Cups and a League Cup and had a few big names associated with the team like Gullit,Vially,Zola,Desailly etc.

We were already in the CL when Abramovich bought the club which made a big difference, so even the first wave of signings in 2003 knew they will have a chance to play in Europe's top competition. Out of the players you mentioned Drogba,Kezman,Robben & Carvalho joined the team that has finished second in the league and reached CL semis and Sheva,Ballack,Essien & Mikel came to us after we already won the league.

Surely you can see the difference between doing that and leaving clubs like Arsenal and United to join City after the season you've had.

I see your point. Although I vehemently disagree with it.

Even to the untrained eye, it's plain to see that City are going to be the new force in the premiership. Whether players join once we reach the champions league, or join to propel us there, does not signify to me that they are less ambitious than those players who joined Chelsea those years ago...

 

[Chelsea No.12]

Our net spend on players between 1990 and 2003 was relative and in proportion to many of the teams around us (during that time it was £4m LESS than yours) .

But what almost crippled the club in terms of debt was the whole redevelopment of Stamford Bridge and Bates vision of 'Chelsea Village'.

 

[MouldensChippy]

Jeez, is there any way we can get a thread for Bobrivers and ToffeeAndy together?

They could bore each other to sleep whilst splitting hairs! :-)

(there's a few others could also be added)

 

[Happy Feet]

Our net spend on players between 1990 and 2003 was relative and in proportion to many of the teams around us (during that time it was £4m LESS than yours) .

But what almost crippled the club in terms of debt was the whole redevelopment of Stamford Bridge and Bates vision of 'Chelsea Village'.

FFS give it a rest