Johnson was as committed to Northern Powerhouse Rail as he had been to Crossrail

[mat]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-59331826

 

[somapop]

Seems like Manchester hasn't done too badly out of this (IF the stations at the airport and Piccadilly/HS2 does get built). Quite a bit of detail to go through but I supsect it could've gone far worse...but we'll see.

New line from Warrington to lil ol Marsden too.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

High speed trains - but we can't have them

It is embarrassing to see how far we have fallen behind as a country, This has been happening for decades. It is only partially about party politics. What it shows is structural failure in our political system. Everyone is upset about corruption but that's just a distraction (there will always be corruption). The main problem is total incompetence. We have a political system that is hundreds of years old and not fit for purpose. Unfortunately the country seems fixated on the past and unwilling to modernise.

 

[remember arthur mann]

Lies on the Line.

 

[mat]

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1034360/integrated-rail-plan-for-the-north-and-midlands.pdf

 

[Len Rum]

I am somewhat confused about the criticism raised against the original suggestion that they would construct new railways and the response was why not just spend the money improving existing lines.
Surprising that now that seems to be what is being suggested is met with criticism from the same quarters.

Look at the title of the thread mate and then remember BloJo's pledge to fund the Manchester Leeds route made back in 2019 just like wot he did in London with Crosrail.

 

[Octavian]

Liverpool-Manchester-Leeds not having a high speed connection to make it easy to commute across these three cities is criminal. The economic upturn from allowing this, by gaining investment as the pool of workers able to join businesses would be great. Every business I’ve ever worked for that had a HQ in London, rarely gave a toss about anything that happened up north. It appears consecutive governments have felt the same.

 

[BobKowalski]

Anna Soubry enjoying herself today

‘A #Conservative MP has just told #politicslive “yes the Prime Minister has broken his promise” on #HS2 East & N Powerhouse new lines and rail improvements #LiesOnTheLine’

 

[bluethrunthru]

It is embarrassing to see how far we have fallen behind as a country, This has been happening for decades. It is only partially about party politics. What it shows is structural failure in our political system. Everyone is upset about corruption but that's just a distraction (there will always be corruption). The main problem is total incompetence. We have a political system that is hundreds of years old and not fit for purpose. Unfortunately the country seems fixated on the past and unwilling to modernise.

The idea that you can catch one in Iraq and Morocco is shameful

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

The idea that you can catch one in Iraq and Morocco is shameful

The Chinese have built 23,500 miles of High Speed train lines in the last 13 years. Most of the country is covered on a grid system. The trains have a top speed of 268mph and they are planning to launch a new faster train in 2025 which has a top speed of a staggering 372mph (600km per hour). We are literally decades behind other nations including African countries, Turkey, Russia, let alone Europe etc etc. We will not be able to compete economically with these countries. We are a transport basket case and this disaster has been a long time in the making.