Jorginho

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He talks about holding midfielders and defensive midfielders all the time in the book, I don't know why anyone would think it goes against the idea of him having a defensive midfielder. Lahm going there was the biggest decision of the season, then he decided he needed 2 holding midfielders not 1, he was converting Javi Martinez from holding midfielder to centre back etc.

"He's the best defensive central midfielder in the world." - Guardiola on Busquets playing pretty much the role of our guy at the base of midfield.

‘He is one of the best holding midfielders I’ve ever seen in my life by far. He’s the level of Xabi Alonso and Sergio Busquets.’ - Being generous with the praise for Carrick.

I don't know where this semantic debate has arisen from over the last few days that Pep either a) doesn't want/use a defensive midfielder or b)Jorginho isn't a defensive midfielder but it's all a load of shite, seemingly coming about because people can't work out that a 6'3'' clogger in the middle of the park isn't the only type of defensive mid.

Jorginho is a holding midfielder, Fernandinho is a holding midfielder. Both have different strenghts and weakness, sometimes both might play, otherwise it'll be horses for courses.


As for the point you bring up with headers - you're right that Fern has become our main defender of aerial balls, with the CB's mopping up the knock downs, or picking up the runners rather than challenging the target man themselves which is what was happening before that Leicester City game when they murdered us getting the second ball every time. With Jorginho that might have to be reversed, putting someone like Laporte on the big man, and having Jorginho mop up and the other CB track any runners.

What will be interesting to me is if that change is made permanently or just when Jorginho is playing. I don't like the idea of CB's having to switch half way through a match or from game to game because I can already see Stones/Otamendi not realising they were supposed to track the runner this time and some relegation candidate team scores against us when someone is 1v1 from a flicked on header.

Also s I've discussed with various folk on here, I really would like to see what happens if they both play. Not all the time obviously, but with Jorginho's flair on the ball, we probably won't always need both KDB & Silva in the same team.

It might take a few games to blow away the cobwebs, but Fern was more of a No 8 at Shakhtar of course, with a midfield 'sweeper' cleaning up behind him. And had it not been for the fact that Yaya can't defend well enough in the Prem to play at 6, Fernandinho might never have settled into this holding position he now plays.

I think we have some really interesting combinations to experiment with, if we sign Jorginho & Mahrez.
 
Interesting to know how much Zinchenko's price changing the deal if he is included in it. We think maybe 40m is realistic for him, we might go up to 40m+5m bonus in a straight deal.

Cant see them accepting something like 25m+Zinchenko. Would be huge negotiating from Txiki. If its anything like 40m+Zinchenko than we pretty much paying what we think he worths + Zinchenko on top.
 
Seems like Napoli are upping the price every week..

That doesn't matter, pay what they are asking and if they up the price pay that. If they then want more we can always pay a bit more. Bluemoon tactics for buying a player, it works every time.
 
(Daily question).. is it done yet?

(I see a lot for anger and arguments, calm down peeps, its not end of the world if dont get Jorginho. We amassed 100 points with what, 22 players last year, and we have got 16 of them in World cup. If that isnt enough for you to cope with, then i dont know what is. Relax, everything will be fine)
 
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