Jorginho

[GeorgeHeslop'sTackle.]

You need to give up. It's common knowledge that as you get older you get more tired. Add to that that Fernandinho has been playing a insane of amount of games and is 33. It's pretty fucking logical he will be knackered very quickly next season.

It is, I’m afraid. Didn’t get many minutes, on the pitch, in the World Cup, but, worryingly, looked totally shot when given a start against Belgium

 

[Ajm1985]

This is nearly getting as fun as Delph.

Not quite at De Bruyne's award speech yet

 

[Ric]

This is nearly getting as fun as Delph.

Not quite at De Bruyne's award speech yet

It's been a while since we had a truly epic transfer saga.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

So the MEN story doesn’t really shed any light on it.

Does anyone have Instagram who can confirm his mum/sister are following Chelsea?

There is nothing other than rumor and the comments of the Napoli exec who cliams Chelsea are having both Sarri and the player. Celsea have said nothing and haven't even sacked Conte yet.

This could all be about Napoli putting pressure on Chelsea. This may have some leggs yet. For the record I agree with Preacher - he is not the perfect fit.

There are others on here who clearly know more about our tactical needs than I do but I’d have thought that our pressing need is for a truly DM who is technically proficient, mobile, intelligent, can pass well and quickly turn defence into attack but who is primarily able to shield the back 4 or, more likely, back 2 or 3, when teams break on us - the main danger we will face against the majority of teams. That’s the ideal and asking a lot, I know. Jorginho, a deep lying playmaker with an eye for the quick pass, especially over the top to pacy forwards, seemed to be a player we saw as making us more effective against high-pressing teams. I think our urgent need is for the former. There again, having watched this WC, I think many Premiership managers may see set-pieces as a possible way forward to sneak wins against us in tight games.

 

[Academica]

We conceded fewer goals from set pieces than any other team in the premier league last season, so if teams want to target that area, that's perfect for us.

Also I think someone like Jorginho despite his own lack of pace does protect us on the break because if you have someone like him creating from deep, helping unlock defences, you don't need to over-commit the wingbacks, and we can keep them ready to snuff out counter-attacks.

Pep's Bayern Munich almost eliminated conceding on the counter attack in their third season, and it mostly came from cutting out loss of posession against teams like Klopp's pressing them.

Yeah but all the player's are a year older now, can't expect them to go jumping all over the place.

 

[LIBlue]

Yeah but all the player's are a year older now, can't expect them to go jumping all over the place.

You’d think by everyone flapping they’d be 10 years older lol

 

[FantasyIreland]

Yes it is.

Chelsea a team with a weird concoction of no manager or two managers or half a manager, an owner who isn't even allowed into the country, no champions league football and who's latest transfer dealings include the huge successes of overpaying for Llorente, Bakayoko, Barkley and Drinkwater have managed to beat us to our top target who we agreed a deal for 15 days ago and then allowed to go on his jollies (because after all last time we let a player enjoy some time off in brazil that went so well) - and to make it all even more insulting the reason that is currently being given is that London is a better place to live than Manchester. Is it fuck.

We are 'Desperate' and 'we need to have a long hard look at ourselves'

That's the sad shit i was referring to.Total bollocks that only serves to wind people up and receive the deserved replies you have.This deal may not even be over......and if it is,it's because the Prem Champions and best run club in the country has decided so.

Take some of your own advice,seriously.

 

[nmc]

I think Stones has been the best player out in Russia for England. Given Citys high line there is an argument that he virtually plays in that role anyway. But actively seeking to convert Stones to DM, for City would be a disaster. Stones excels in relation to his passing range when the can see the picture before him. I don't see him coping well 10- 15 more yards further up the pitch in the thick of being pressed like hell. Not his game. He has only just turned another positive corner developmentally for me in Russia. His confidence and resilience seems to be back.The last thing he needs is a change of position, fans on his back after a few poor performances in a position he's not really equipped for. Let him be.

I agree. I think Pep will try to develop Laporte and Stones as his long term CB pairing

 

[FantasyIreland]

I think, and you guys might call me a cynic/crazy/paranoid, that the recent developments have brought a few WUMs and trolls to the thread.

There's definitely a worse than usual odor...

All being noted.

 

[Matt Diablo]

London is a very unpleasant place, which he will discover in time.

Its one of top cities in the world you clown

 

[daztrueblue91]

If the reports are to be believed then it’s straightforward what is happening and it is very reminiscent of the Sanchez saga.

We’ve reached a deal with the player and Napoli.

ADL wanted to get more money and gets Chelsea involved in the bidding.

Chelsea have offered Napoli and Jorginho more money than our previous agreed deal.

ADL wants Jorginho to join Chelsea but the player has not yet made a decision.

We’ve set a precedent with the Sanchez deal that we will not renegotiate terms of an agreed deal. So the logic would suggest that Jorginho will join Chelsea. Unless he has his heart set on City in which case all he has to do is refuse Chelsea and Napoli will sell him.

Money talks though.

 

[TheThirdDeano]

It's been a while since we had a truly epic transfer saga.

Not enough viewer traffic ey ;-) I always suspected you had a finger in a few pies, so to speak.

 

[domalino]

Yeah but all the player's are a year older now, can't expect them to go jumping all over the place.

Ooh, you're so witty.

 

[Ajm1985]

It's been a while since we had a truly epic transfer saga.

Exactly. All this imminent transfer talk is rubbish. We need last minute turnarounds and mis-translations

 

[Academica]

Ooh, you're so witty.

Thanks.

 

[Academica]

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...KDAA&usg=AOvVaw0Ws-rqtfBv9yuRR3w1NeuL&ampcf=1

 

[shak]

We are 'Desperate' and 'we need to have a long hard look at ourselves'

That's the sad shit i was referring to.Total bollocks that only serves to wind people up and receive the deserved replies you have.This deal may not even be over......and if it is,it's because the Prem Champions and best run club in the country has decided so.

Take some of your own advice,seriously.

Yeah fair enough mate, I apologise. You're right it's not over yet, but it sounds very much like it might be. I do think we are desperate or very soon will be though.

 

[Robinho's Subbuteo]

Its one of top cities in the world you clown

Sorry Matt, I forgot you represent my opinion better than I do.

 

[mosssideblue]

Di Marzio saying Sarri deal to Chelsea is done in 24 hours and that Jorginho is part of the package. Looks like we messed this one up!

Go on, I'll bite, how exactly have we messed this one up

 

[Delphinho]

So the MEN story doesn’t really shed any light on it.

Does anyone have Instagram who can confirm his mum/sister are following Chelsea?

From what I've heard his mother has 2 instagram profiles. One private account and one public account. Jorginho follows them both. On her public account she has started following Chelsea. On the private one (I don't follow it, so I pass on the information I've heard, not 100% sure it's correct) she also follows Chelsea, but she also follows AC Milan. Her sister also has a private account, but she also follows Chelsea. As far as I can see, no one follows City