Jose for City? (merged)

[hgblue]

Just curious - does anyone have a decent argument for why Mou will leave Madrid this summer...to my mind, I find it inconceivable that he'd walk away after one season....

Barcelona :-).

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Just curious - does anyone have a decent argument for why Mou will leave Madrid this summer...to my mind, I find it inconceivable that he'd walk away after one season....

Because he knows he'll never catch Barca, and that's what he's judged on in that job.

 

[waspish]

He is shooed in for the rags job.. They av been planning the transition from Baconface to Mourinho for years! Why do you think there is 165 million in funds for the manager stashed in bank this was quoted from Gil! Get behind Mancini because if he goes we'll be looking for less superior managers to him!

 

[samharris]

Re: Jose for City?

No mate its a new one.

Last weeks was laying the foundations so to speak but this takes it one stage further.

The bidding war is about to begin!

Chelsea are making me nervous now

But the Roman likes to tamper with the goods so to speak..<br /><br />-- Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:37 pm --<br /><br />

Just thought I'd put this out there, see what you think. It's more for the Mancini outers and the Jose fan boys.

If The owners announced that Mourinho was our manager for next season you are putting a lot of faith in the fact that when he pisses off after one season like he always does, there will be another good manager ready to pick up the pieces.

Can you imagine us having a better manager than Mancini after that happens? The thought worries me somewhat.

Would you be happy if Mourinho came in, sold a load of players, brought in a load of new ones, and then got 5th because they weren't given enough time to gel?

Mourinho would have been the best thing that ever happened to this club if he was brought in on Boxing day of 2009. Mancini was the man who walked out on to the pitch that day and has since then spent hundred of millions on HIS SQUAD. Football is a long-termist game. Short term gains are few and far between and almost always based on sheer luck.

Fergie took 6 years to win anything with the rags, and there was even a time when the rags were calling for his head. Although they won't tell you that.

In the long run Mancini is the better option. In my opinion this is fact (Oxymoron? I don't care haha).

Forza CITY


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Edit: He also capitulated against Barcelona... Does that make Pep a better manager? Perhaps, perhaps not. What I do know is one has had much longer at his team than the other

I agree with with everything you say there! Why is Mourinho talking about leaving after just one season? I'll tell you Barcelona! He knows he'll struggle to win the league and champions league while Barcelona are that good! He's looking for an escape root before his reputation goes!

Food for thought that..

 

[bobmcfc]

Just curious - does anyone have a decent argument for why Mou will leave Madrid this summer...to my mind, I find it inconceivable that he'd walk away after one season....

Because he knows he'll never catch Barca, and that's what he's judged on in that job.

its not really a quick fix job matching Barcelona though is it ? it takes time work and patience to match a team like that. Barcelona didn't happen overnight. ! and would you really want a manager who would throw in the towl so easily and admit defeat dave ?

and people say madrid didn't give him this and didn't let him buy that. he has the most expensive assembled sides in the world and still isn't happy ? how would he be here if things didn't go his way.

i wouldn't turn him down but we have to be very careful and think this through. he is not the messiah people claim him to be

 

[fbloke]

He is shooed in for the rags job.. They av been planning the transition from Baconface to Mourinho for years! Why do you think there is 165 million in funds for the manager stashed in bank this was quoted from Gil! Get behind Mancini because if he goes we'll be looking for less superior managers to him!

I hear that £100m of that has to be held in cash as part of the bond issue.

So it can't be touched.

 

[waspish]

He is shooed in for the rags job.. They av been planning the transition from Baconface to Mourinho for years! Why do you think there is 165 million in funds for the manager stashed in bank this was quoted from Gil! Get behind Mancini because if he goes we'll be looking for less superior managers to him!

I hear that £100m of that has to be held in cash as part of the bond issue.

So it can't be touched.

Oh.....Didn't know that! Gill didn't mentioned that did he?!!!!!

 

[Akira]

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Manchester City Not Manchester United Look The Better Bet To Lure Jose Mourinho Back To England
We take a look at the Special One's options if he takes his leave of Real Madrid...

By Patrick Reilly
Mar 23, 2011 11:57:00 AM

Sir Alex Ferguson's successor at Old Trafford will be Jose Mourinho according to the bookmakers. The Special One told English newspaper The Sun: "I miss England and my next job will be in England," and bookies have been quick to respond to Mourinho's remarks by drawing up a book on his next move.

Jose Mourinho's Next Job Odds
Man Utd @ 5.0
Man City @ 5.25
Bayern Munich @ 8.0
Chelsea @ 8.0
Liverpool @ 10.0
Juventus @ 12.0
Arsenal @ 15.0
Barcelona @ 15.0
Inter @ 20.0
Milan @ 25.0

The two Manchester clubs will meet in the FA Cup semi-finals and it appears they will also duke it out for the services of Mourinho. There's precious little to separate them in the market to secure the Portuguese tactician with plenty of early money being lobbed on Man City.

Current boss Roberto Mancini is coming under increasing pressure at Eastlands. If he fails to get past United in the FA Cup and falls short of secuing Champions League football, the ex-Inter boss will surely be heading through City's revolving door. A price of 5.25 is well worth a punt as the club will be able to indulge Mourinho with an unlimited budget.

Bookies have been creating a market on Sir Alex Ferguson's successor for a decade. Fergie was originally due to step down in 2002 but has remained at the helm for another nine years and shows no signs of retiring. Therefore the price of 5.0 could be worthy of a small single bet along with a larger punt on Man City to acquire Mourinho.

In a strange quirk, it's Chelsea who lead the running in the race to bring their former favourite back to the Bridge. The Blues are 2.25 to line up a special reunion but with Mourinho under contract to Real Madrid for another three years it's likely that their ex-manager will remain at the Bernabeu for at least another season.

If he does see out his Real Madrid contract, by that time Sir Alex Ferguson will be 72 and the Man Utd job just might be available by then.


Jose Mourinho's Next English Club To Manage Odds
Chelsea @ 2.50
Man Utd @ 2.75
Man City @ 3.0
Liverpool @ 11.0
Any other @ 17.0
Arsenal @ 21.0
Tottenham @ 21.0

Rumours of a split with Jorge Valdano are rampant at Real Madrid so bookies are hedging their bets on the 'Mourinho to walk' market. He's a zero value @ 1.07 to take his leave of Los Blancos by September 1 compared to 1.43 to still be on the Bernabeu bench by then.

In his relatively short managerial career of just over a decade the Special One has coached six teams. He tends to deliver success and then clear off and bookies expect him to take his leave of Real Madrid sooner rather than later.

Jose Mourinho to leave Real Madrid by September 1
Yes @ 1.07
No @ 1.43


Betting Verdict
Managerial markets are hugely popular with bookmakers and punters due to their topical interest. A figure like Jose Mourinho will always attract money with the vast majority of bets on this market being losers.

Mourinho has made it clear he wants to return to the Premier League so you can forget about Bayern Munich. German is one of the few languages he doesn't speak and a return to Italy is doubtful also. He's been there and made the treble t-shirt.

There are plenty of parallels between Chelsea 2004 and Man City 2011. A club with deep pockets, proud history but no league title for decades, seeking to establish themselves in the Champions League and in the shadow of local rivals.

The Special One knocked Arsenal off their perch and they haven't recovered since. He'd relish the chance to do the same to Manchester United at the helm of their city neighbours.

After all, a few years of success with City would be the ideal preparation for the job he's said to really covet - Manchester United.

The Pick: Jose Mourinho's next club (Man City) @ 5.25

Personally I dun wan a managerial change and prefer it if Mancini stays.

 

[sniff]

I hear that £100m of that has to be held in cash as part of the bond issue.

So it can't be touched.

Oh.....Didn't know that! Gill didn't mentioned that did he?!!!!!

Gill wont mention anything like that now will he.

Jose wont go to united because fergie wont retire, and no matter how much he says it, one man is bigger than the club. Its himself, he holds it all together and the reason the fans stay quiet.

United will not urge him to retire because he is to important to them, in more than just football terms. No matter how much they rate Jose, he hasnt got what fergie has.

 

[Deepest Blue]

Just curious - does anyone have a decent argument for why Mou will leave Madrid this summer...to my mind, I find it inconceivable that he'd walk away after one season....

Because he knows he'll never catch Barca, and that's what he's judged on in that job.

Catch Barca in which way Dave?
Do you mean that they'll be the pre-eminent team in Spain with the best production line of young talent complimenting well chosen signings to produce a whole that dominates domestic and European football year-in year-out or just a short term thing such as an isolated Champions League victory, maybe KO'ing Barcelona on the way?
I would not bet against the latter. I firmly believe that Barca will not reach the CL final this year and that JM will be in an incredibly strong position come the end of May.