Josko Gvardiol

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richards30 said:
Anyone know how true the rumour is they must sell by the 30th June actually is?
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Did some digging into this mate and it’s all based on one report from a not so reliable source, based on their transfer news.

Doesn’t rule out it’s true, but looks unlikely.
 
Tony - MCFC said:
Did some digging into this mate and it’s all based on one report from a not so reliable source, based on their transfer news.

Doesn’t rule out it’s true, but looks unlikely.
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I believe their top dog did an interview a few days ago saying it’s all rubbish and they don’t need to raise any money as they are financially fI e. However, that could be lip service to stop clubs like us thinking we can muscle in and take players cheap.
My worry here with this one is they are going to stand firm and demand what they want or no deal, City just won’t pay that though in my opinion. If we want this lad though we need to get it sorted asap and move on to any other targets. It’d be great to start pre season ready to go and not fucking about playing games other clubs are setting in motion.
 
not my fault! said:
I believe their top dog did an interview a few days ago saying it’s all rubbish and they don’t need to raise any money as they are financially fI e. However, that could be lip service to stop clubs like us thinking we can muscle in and take players cheap.
My worry here with this one is they are going to stand firm and demand what they want or no deal, City just won’t pay that though in my opinion. If we want this lad though we need to get it sorted asap and move on to any other targets. It’d be great to start pre season ready to go and not fucking about playing games other clubs are setting in motion.
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City will v likely need to pay a world record fee for a defender, if they don’t it won’t happen. He seems to be the number one target and City want him no matter who goes, so let’s hope they pay and get this done.
 
richards30 said:
Anyone know how true the rumour is they must sell by the 30th June actually is?
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FFP and financial year is end of June for all clubs Chelsea spend a lot of money in last year and need to recoup to reduce their net spend they may also have an issue with the total amortisation in the current year
 
Tony - MCFC said:
City will v likely need to pay a world record fee for a defender, if they don’t it won’t happen. He seems to be the number one target and City want him no matter who goes, so let’s hope they pay and get this done.
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I just can’t see us paying it, we don't work that way at all. I sadly feel this is one of those drawn out deals that’ll fail to get done and someone else will swoop in and just pay the fee they want. I get the principle of the club, I genuinely do but I sometimes feel we need to just get the player we want rather than stringing it out,
Rice is the perfect example (I wasn’t convinced about him to be honest and stated it many tInes) we offered £80m + £10m, so we valued him at £80m but were willing to extend that by another £10m if we achieved certain goals that guaranteed us a financial return. If he was who we really wanted though we could of still valued him at £80m and paid it, but increased the £10m to £20m and strung it out over a longer period which in turn would of meant financial rewards for us having achieved the triggers that require us to pay it.
It made zero sense to walk away over a figure that could have been justifiable long term.
The media can spin it how they like but the initial fee before bonuses is our valuation, the rest is a sweetener based on us succeeding and whoever the player is doing so too.
What did we win this season? £295m? lets hypothetically say we win £400m over the next two seasons under Pep and let’s take Rice as an example again, that’s £20m over those 2 seasons extra in payments we’d have to pay out of the £400m return.
It was a no brainier, we had nothing to lose as the extra bonus payments were only payable had we hit our goals and collected further trophies.
Anyway back to Gvardiol, I think he’d be an outstanding addition but I suspect he needs to a) publicly declare his ambition to sign for us, b) City need to go in hard with a genuine and realistic offer, and c) we need to wrap this up in days not weeks.
 
not my fault! said:
I believe their top dog did an interview a few days ago saying it’s all rubbish and they don’t need to raise any money as they are financially fI e. However, that could be lip service to stop clubs like us thinking we can muscle in and take players cheap.
My worry here with this one is they are going to stand firm and demand what they want or no deal, City just won’t pay that though in my opinion. If we want this lad though we need to get it sorted asap and move on to any other targets. It’d be great to start pre season ready to go and not fucking about playing games other clubs are setting in motion.
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As much as we'd love to see it get done quickly, hard to see. For a start, the player is currently injured, and undergoing recovery. Delays any possible medicals etc. Then there is the fee, which will be huge. Then there is also potentially knowing what's happening with Laporte as well. And longer term, someone needs to free up a space. A few things need to click into place.

They are in a stronger position, when it comes to the fee. There is a 100m release clause next year, so it is pay that now, or wait a year and pay it anyway. That said, it seems like there is some understanding there as they are away securing a replacement.

There doesn't seem to be anyone else competing, he doesn't seem interested in anyone else if you go by the reports, so it is a bit of patience and letting the clubs do their thing. And hopefully a but of good will beteeen the clubs too, over helping them out with Angelino when they 'struggled' to pay us the fee for him.
 
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