Joy Division / New Order thread

[Nightmare Walking]

Selfish and Tasty Fish get a regular play in my car

I am surprised Gillian has not sung more on New Order stuff. All she has done is the odd bit of backing vocals.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

I am surprised Gillian has not sung more on New Order stuff. All she has done is the odd bit of backing vocals.

Not sure Barney would agree with that! Lol

 

[Sky Blue Thinking]

I am surprised Gillian has not sung more on New Order stuff. All she has done is the odd bit of backing vocals.

She looked out of her comfort zone in the World in Motion video.

 

[Northernstorirs]

I have read pretty much every New Order book that has been released. Have to say that the 3 Hooky ones are the most enjoyable. Have to take what he says with a pinch of salt, but they are good. Just started on Stephens New Order one.

Is Bernard's book worth a read? I'm about to finish Hook's UP and moving on to his Substance book at the weekend.

 

[Nightmare Walking]

Is Bernard's book worth a read? I'm about to finish Hook's UP and moving on to his Substance book at the weekend.

Not really, it's pretty dull. Stay away from the Blue Monday diaries as well, that is pretty boring. Hooky's Hacienda book and the 2 Stephen Morris books are good. Factory by Mick Middles and You're Entitled To an Opinion by David Nolan are worth a read. Then you have the Deborah Curtis book, 'Touching From a Distance'.

 

[Northernstorirs]

Not really, it's pretty dull. Stay away from the Blue Monday diaries as well, that is pretty boring. Hooky's Hacienda book and the 2 Stephen Morris books are good. Factory by Mick Middles and You're Entitled To an Opinion by David Nolan are worth a read. Then you have the Deborah Curtis book, 'Touching From a Distance'.

Cheers pal, that's saved me some time.

I really enjoyed the Hacienda book, may re-read the first few chapters as I wasn't full acquainted some of the people involved with factory and NO when I first read it. (I only just got in to both bands).

I saw the Mick Middles Factory book in Waterstones (before lockdown) and look ok so I have that on my radar.

Is 'Touching from a distance' a good read or is it grim with Ian's death and how the relationship struggled with handling married life, a child and the band?

I'm really enjoying Hooky's books, he has some great anecdotes and whilst he covers some tragic accounts, he has a good knack of lifting the reader's spirits again by topping it off with a humorous comment or story. I don't mind if he has been liberal with truth, makes for good reading.

 

[Nightmare Walking]

Cheers pal, that's saved me some time.

I really enjoyed the Hacienda book, may re-read the first few chapters as I wasn't full acquainted some of the people involved with factory and NO when I first read it. (I only just got in to both bands).

I saw the Mick Middles Factory book in Waterstones (before lockdown) and look ok so I have that on my radar.

Is 'Touching from a distance' a good read or is it grim with Ian's death and how the relationship struggled with handling married life, a child and the band?

I'm really enjoying Hooky's books, he has some great anecdotes and whilst he covers some tragic accounts, he has a good knack of lifting the reader's spirits again by topping it off with a humorous comment or story. I don't mind if he has been liberal with truth, makes for good reading.

Touching From a Distance' is pretty grim TBF. Anton Corbin based his film Control on it and there is a reason he shot it all in black and white.

The North Will Rise Again by Jon Robb is a great book. There is also a Manchester book by Dave Haslam.

There is a book about Martin Hannett which was written by one of Section 25 I think (may have been ACR though, can't remember now). That is worth a read.

There is a book about Nico from Velvet Underground and how she went from being Uber cool, chic and A list in New York, to living with a load of smack heads in Manchester. That is definitely one to put on the list.

 

[Out on blue 6]

Touching From A Distance is pretty grim but is about a relationship as much as about a band. I agree Morris's books are probably the best as Bernards and Hookys continually take pot shots at each other. Paul Morley is releasing a book about Anthony H Wilson later this year which may be good

 

[Northernstorirs]

Touching From a Distance' is pretty grim TBF. Anton Corbin based his film Control on it and there is a reason he shot it all in black and white.

The North Will Rise Again by Jon Robb is a great book. There is also a Manchester book by Dave Haslam.

There is a book about Martin Hannett which was written by one of Section 25 I think (may have been ACR though, can't remember now). That is worth a read.

There is a book about Nico from Velvet Underground and how she went from being Uber cool, chic and A list in New York, to living with a load of smack heads in Manchester. That is definitely one to put on the list.

Topman, thank you for the recommendations.

I used to hang about with Dave's son at college, was a baggies fan.

Enjoying the accounts about Martin Hannett in the current book, sounds like a creative genius.

The Nico book sounds interesting.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Topman, thank you for the recommendations.

I used to hang about with Dave's son at college, was a baggies fan.

Enjoying the accounts about Martin Hannett in the current book, sounds like a creative genius.

The Nico book sounds interesting.

I thought the Blue Monday Diaries was brilliant, but I suspect it’s only for a hardcore fan like I used to be. I like the intimate details of how they wrote, recorded and socialised back then.

Barney’s book is rubbish. Hooky’s is explosive with all the drugs, sex and gossip. A lot of people in Manchester were furious at him for it. He’s obviously a bit of a knob but I can’t help agreeeing with his opinion on the music: that when Barney started interacting with other musicians, and writing songs with more traditional structures and keys, they lost what made them special. That occurred when he went off to do Electronic and I must say that the music since then backs that up in my opinion.