Juanma Lillo leaves to become Al-Sadd Head Coach

[ScottSinclair]

Was just thinking about not only Stones incredible comeback, but also Zin coming on leaps and bounds defensively, not too forget us as a team as well, and started to wonder if what we're seeing is Lillo's influence? Last year a lot of people including me questioned what he actually brought to the table considering we got progressively worse after his arrival to the point where around october we didn't look like a Pep side at all.

I was always under the impression Lillo was an all out attack type of coach, but does anyone know anything aboit his defensive track-record across his long coaching-career?

 

[samarasra]

Was just thinking about not only Stones incredible comeback, but also Zin coming on leaps and bounds defensively, not too forget us as a team as well, and started to wonder if what we're seeing is Lillo's influence? Last year a lot of people including me questioned what he actually brought to the table considering we got progressively worse after his arrival to the point where around october we didn't look like a Pep side at all.

I was always under the impression Lillo was an all out attack type of coach, but does anyone know anything aboit his defensive track-record across his long coaching-career?

Just do a Google search for him. There are some excellent articles on him, some of which go a long way to explain our style evolution over the past 18 months.

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

Just do a Google search for him. There are some excellent articles on him, some of which go a long way to explain our style evolution over the past 18 months.

Link them please

 

[samarasra]

Link them please

Juanma Lillo: No trophies in 37 years but Man City's new No.2 is Guardiola's mentor | Goal.com

Manchester City's new assistant coach Juanma Lillo may never have won a trophy but the Basque has had a major influence on not only Pep Guardiola but a host of top players

www.goal.com

What if success looked a lot like failure? The story of Juanma Lillo

It's difficult to describe geniuses without using the adjective obsessed. It’s as if it's a requirement of all inventors, thinkers and philosophers to

thesefootballtimes.co

Juanma Lillo: Coach Watch - The Coaches' Voice

Juanma Lillo has returned to assist Pep Guardiola at Manchester City after a year at Al Sadd in Qatar. We look at his principles

www.coachesvoice.com

Pep Guardiola exclusive: What Juanma Lillo brings to Manchester City

www.skysports.com

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

Juanma Lillo: No trophies in 37 years but Man City's new No.2 is Guardiola's mentor | Goal.com

Manchester City's new assistant coach Juanma Lillo may never have won a trophy but the Basque has had a major influence on not only Pep Guardiola but a host of top players

www.goal.com

What if success looked a lot like failure? The story of Juanma Lillo

It's difficult to describe geniuses without using the adjective obsessed. It’s as if it's a requirement of all inventors, thinkers and philosophers to

thesefootballtimes.co

Juanma Lillo: Coach Watch - The Coaches' Voice

Juanma Lillo has returned to assist Pep Guardiola at Manchester City after a year at Al Sadd in Qatar. We look at his principles

www.coachesvoice.com

Pep Guardiola exclusive: What Juanma Lillo brings to Manchester City

www.skysports.com

Cheers mate

 

[BlueDejong]

He's best..

 

[BlueDejong]

Juanma Lillo has a lot to do with City's successful season. He has asked Guardiola several questions and his influence is reflected in the team. The use of a double pivot, the management of having less time on the ball, the improvement in losing the ball where they want.

 

[Barcon]

Every time I see him on the bench I shit myself thinking Keegans back.

 

[mccity]

Reading through this thread, quite a few are looking a tad silly now.


This thread is actually a good insight into the psychology of many posters. When we weren't doing well, people were looking for something or someone to blame. They associated our success with the outgoing Arteta, and the failings with the incoming Lillo. Many posts were lacking in thought, and the ones that didn't were lacking in insight.

But the truth is, nobody really knew what either did. We know bits and pieces, but not really much. Even now, I'd say the same. Chances are, they both have had positive impacts, but ultimately the buck stops at Pep, good and bad.

In fairness, it's no different to a player thread. Most don't really know the depth of what they critique. Some do, but they're rare. They call what they see, and in fairness, sometimes that matches up, but really a lot of it is the tip of the iceberg. There's so much going on under the surface that makes things way more complex than we can appreciate. It means we miss when underperforming players are doing better, and also sometimes we might argue players are doing better than they actually are.


If there's one lesson from threads like these, it's that maybe we should chill out on rushing to make judgements with a club that has had unprecedented success these last few years. I'm not saying don't call a spade a spade, whether you'd be right or wrong there'd be a discussion to be had. Just maybe don't jump in to say that the spade will never be a useful tool in our locker at every opportunity.

 

[Newman Noggs]

Reading through this thread, quite a few are looking a tad silly now.


This thread is actually a good insight into the psychology of many posters. When we weren't doing well, people were looking for something or someone to blame. They associated our success with the outgoing Arteta, and the failings with the incoming Lillo. Many posts were lacking in thought, and the ones that didn't were lacking in insight.

But the truth is, nobody really knew what either did. We know bits and pieces, but not really much. Even now, I'd say the same. Chances are, they both have had positive impacts, but ultimately the buck stops at Pep, good and bad.

In fairness, it's no different to a player thread. Most don't really know the depth of what they critique. Some do, but they're rare. They call what they see, and in fairness, sometimes that matches up, but really a lot of it is the tip of the iceberg. There's so much going on under the surface that makes things way more complex than we can appreciate. It means we miss when underperforming players are doing better, and also sometimes we might argue players are doing better than they actually are.


If there's one lesson from threads like these, it's that maybe we should chill out on rushing to make judgements with a club that has had unprecedented success these last few years. I'm not saying don't call a spade a spade, whether you'd be right or wrong there'd be a discussion to be had. Just maybe don't jump in to say that the spade will never be a useful tool in our locker at every opportunity.

And never, ever, allow fans to get into the position where they play any part in making important club decisions.