Jude Bellingham

shemnel said:
no inbetween
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Well of course there’s an inbetween but judging from your comment that’s not how you feel. Don’t think many are questioning his ability, he’s a player for sure. His attitude on the other hand is awful. He just doesn’t seem like a team player, it’s all about him. That’s why I think he will cost England.
 
Phil1 said:
Well of course there’s an inbetween but judging from your comment that’s not how you feel. Don’t think many are questioning his ability, he’s a player for sure. His attitude on the other hand is awful. He just doesn’t seem like a team player, it’s all about him. That’s why I think he will cost England.
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There's definitely a player in Bellingham but as you said "He's not a team player" he's all for himself, His attitude is atrocious.

I don't think Bellingham will cost England to be honest, Southgate will do that job.
 
the-ecstacy-of-eight said:
Did you watch the match? How many times was he on the deck clutching his legs complaining to the ref, and then the replay showed him not to have even been touched?

Not.
Even.
Touched.

And he's there trying to get players booked or worse in the Champions League QF. And it wasn't 1 isolated incident, it was all match for the full 90 mins. Great player? Fucking great shithousery more like. Great players try to influence the match with their skill, not by trying to con the ref.
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What I thought was interesting last night was that on the CBS/Paramount+ stream the commentator kept trying to make out that tackles on him might have actually been fouls and maybe he (and Madrid) should feel aggrieved and the co-commentator (female ex-player, maybe Karen Carney?) kept saying “no, I think that was fair” or “there was very little contact” or “I think the ref got that one right” or “the referee is allowing them to play”.

Over and over again he tried to cast doubt on whether Bellingham and other RM players were being hard done by and she kept dismissing the comments.

To me it was a stark example of how commentators often try to set the narrative as the match unfolds, and without a decent co-commentator, they often succeed.

And how much hype and brand protection Bellingham gets from English media, even including the commentators. There was absolutely no mention of his diving, histrionics, or shitehousing, even though it was constantly on show.
 
SWPISHOME said:
There's definitely a player in Bellingham but as you said "He's not a team player" he's all for himself, His attitude is atrocious.

I don't think Bellingham will cost England to be honest, Southgate will do that job.
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Yeah the Southgate angle is a given. Not worth mentioning how shite he is as we all know. Well apart from the West Ham fan.
 
Phil1 said:
Well of course there’s an inbetween but judging from your comment that’s not how you feel. Don’t think many are questioning his ability, he’s a player for sure. His attitude on the other hand is awful. He just doesn’t seem like a team player, it’s all about him. That’s why I think he will cost England.
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i think he's a young promising player, who's gotten a bit caught up in a his large career leap. No more, no less. I am not sure i've really said anything to suggest i think he's amazing, or otherwise. I am surprised he has his own thread, I am surprised people let themselves get so wound up. I don't even know why i'm contributing to this thread! have a good 'un.
 
shemnel said:
i think he's a young promising player, who's gotten a bit caught up in a his large career leap. No more, no less. I am not sure i've really said anything to suggest i think he's amazing, or otherwise. I am surprised he has his own thread, I am surprised people let themselves get so wound up. I don't even know why i'm contributing to this thread! have a good 'un.
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I’m in Madrid with my head in bits waiting for the maid to come and kick me out of bed.
A good’un seems unlikely at this point. :-)
 
shemnel said:
i think he's a young promising player, who's gotten a bit caught up in a his large career leap. No more, no less. I am not sure i've really said anything to suggest i think he's amazing, or otherwise. I am surprised he has his own thread, I am surprised people let themselves get so wound up. I don't even know why i'm contributing to this thread! have a good 'un.
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One of the most talked about players in world football having his own thread in the General section of an online football discussion forum.

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SebastianBlue said:
What I thought was interesting last night was that on the CBS/Paramount+ stream the commentator kept trying to make out that tackles on him might have actually been fouls and maybe he (and Madrid) should feel aggrieved and the co-commentator (female ex-player, maybe Karen Carney?) kept saying “no, I think that was fair” or “there was very little contact” or “I think the ref got that one right” or “the referee is allowing them to play”.

Over and over again he tried to cast doubt on whether Bellingham and other RM players were being hard done by and she kept dismissing the comments.

To me it was a stark example of how commentators often try to set the narrative as the match unfolds, and without a decent co-commentator, they often succeed.

And how much hype and brand protection Bellingham gets from English media, even including the commentators. There was absolutely no mention of his diving, histrionics, or shitehousing, even though it was constantly on show.
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unfortunately I had the pleasure of McManamanaman in my ear last night.
 
Great young talent who needs to concentrate on playing rather than being a shithouse, he was acting like a right mard arsed **** last night instead of causing City problems …
Great for us but it won’t do him any good in the long run, if he ever gets to Fodens level and comes to City :-)
 
This is a general discussion about the match but has a specific bit toward the end about whether Bellingham is starting to believe his own hype which is negatively impacting his performances over the last two months.

Spoiler: ESPN pundits largely agree with most on here that it does seem like he is starting to let it go to his head.

 
Don’t understand the hype with him, never really have.

Doesn’t do anything exceptionally from what I’ve seen other than complain.
 
Entire Madrid team were at it, but he was the worst offender.

They obviously have an inferiority complex after last seasons spanking and we're trying everything they could to get a result to take to the 2ng leg where they know we can pump them.

Bellingham as the new star obviously wanted to lead his teams efforts, ended up just looking like a bit of a knob.
 
Good player, not great. I'm not judging him on last night because every player has quiet games but he's been way overhyped because he went to Real Madrid and had a good purple patch.

Even Rashford had a similar patch last season and nobody was saying he should win Ballon d'or. It would be laughable.

These are the real tests and he didn't turn up yet. A player in his position has no excuse to be invisible. You're not a striker starved of service a la Haaland, you're right in the thick of the game. I'd almost rather our midfielders be poor than go into hiding, at least you know they're still trying.

I've just got a feeling he wouldn't look all that good in the Premier League...

That said he is young still, but I honestly don't think he's anything special. Certainly a good player, but time will tell the truth and in the long run we will see his level isn't that of a superstar. He's a bit of a bellwhiff too and a shithouse.

That's why I don't care when the media or other fans try not to big up Foden like they do others, because I know it'll get to a point where his superiority over the likes of Bellingham will be laid bare for everyone to see.
 
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