Jules Koundé

Really don't understand the obsession with height. Football is played on the ground. Counter attacks is our weakness not high balls in to box. Tall centrebacks means we can't cover ground at the back and stop counters, especially with Rodri in the middle who is not mobile.

City need athletic defenders who can read the game, combined with good technical ability.
 
damrider said:
Anyone else want to share with us regarding their revelation that Kounde is not 3 meters tall?
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Have just found out he's not 3 metres tall, or even taller ... more like five feet, ten inches tall , on a good day ... and a much needed right footed central defender to boot!
 
PrezIke said:
We're giving Barca him for free before this window is closed?

Because La Liga told them they can't buy anyone right now.

TBF, they are trying to sell players, so that's the condition before they can buy anyone, as far as I heard.
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And they have just got rid of Vidal, with Semedo and Suarez due to join them very soon. One of which (Semedo) is going to net them £30m, which will fund a couple of transfers, Garcia likely being one of them.
 
MeatHunterrr said:
Really don't understand the obsession with height. Football is played on the ground. Counter attacks is our weakness not high balls in to box. Tall centrebacks means we can't cover ground at the back and stop counters, especially with Rodri in the middle who is not mobile.

City need athletic defenders who can read the game, combined with good technical ability.
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Funny thing is, it's not normally headed goals we concede, so don't even know where it's come from
 
MeatHunterrr said:
Really don't understand the obsession with height. Football is played on the ground. Counter attacks is our weakness not high balls in to box. Tall centrebacks means we can't cover ground at the back and stop counters, especially with Rodri in the middle who is not mobile.

City need athletic defenders who can read the game, combined with good technical ability.
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It is a valid concern when you have someone like Garcia who doesn't have any athleticism.

Obviously when you have someone that can leap like Kounde, it's not really a significant issue.

Fernandinho in his prime comes to mind - he was excellent in the air up against players much bigger.
 

J. Koundé | Sevilla F.C.

www.sevillafc.es www.sevillafc.es

Seriously 1.78m is fucking ridiculous. He’d lose an aerial duel against all tall defenders in the league who have a decent jump. Sure his sprint can help him a bit, but these tall CBs can jump as well. I just can’t see this being successful, there’s no way.
 
skyblues said:

J. Koundé | Sevilla F.C.

www.sevillafc.es www.sevillafc.es

Seriously 1.78m is fucking ridiculous. He’d lose an aerial duel against all tall defenders in the league who have a decent jump. Sure his sprint can help him a bit, but these tall CBs can jump as well. I just can’t see this being successful, there’s no way.
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Make check the statistics on him in this topic before making such assumptions. I don’t recall Cannavaro being 17 feet tall, and he was rather successful at his trade.
 
skyblues said:

J. Koundé | Sevilla F.C.

www.sevillafc.es www.sevillafc.es

Seriously 1.78m is fucking ridiculous. He’d lose an aerial duel against all tall defenders in the league who have a decent jump. Sure his sprint can help him a bit, but these tall CBs can jump as well. I just can’t see this being successful, there’s no way.
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Has he shrunk since you said you wanted him then.
 
skyblues said:

J. Koundé | Sevilla F.C.

www.sevillafc.es www.sevillafc.es

Seriously 1.78m is fucking ridiculous. He’d lose an aerial duel against all tall defenders in the league who have a decent jump. Sure his sprint can help him a bit, but these tall CBs can jump as well. I just can’t see this being successful, there’s no way.
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Yeah fuck right. If only you’re allowed to jump in football!

There are so many other variables in winning aerial duels : timing, positioning, jumping ability, aggresiveness, etc. If players can only head the ball from a standing stance then yeah people should be concerned. As it stands statistically Kounde wins more aerial battle than VVD.
 
JimmyGrimble10 said:
Make check the statistics on him in this topic before making such assumptions. I don’t recall Cannavaro being 17 feet tall, and he was rather successful at his trade.
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I’ve seen the statistics but still, against any big and physical team (Liverpool is one), how is he supposed to stop a strong Fabinho, VVD or Gomez? It’s not happening.

blueparrot said:
Has he shrunk since you said you wanted him then.
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He’s the best 2nd choice we have but I’m still very reluctant since he has to be on the shorter spectrum of all central defenders in Europe. We can’t just refer to Puyol as our comfort. He was exceptional.
 
I don’t see his lack of height being an issue. We need a mobile back four to thwart the counter.

Slabhead must be about 6ft 5 but he would have been a nightmare in our set-up.
 
skyblues said:
I’ve seen the statistics but still, against any big and physical team (Liverpool is one), how is he supposed to stop a strong Fabinho, VVD or Gomez? It’s not happening.



He’s the best 2nd choice we have but I’m still very reluctant since he has to be on the shorter spectrum of all central defenders in Europe. We can’t just refer to Puyol as our comfort. He was exceptional.
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Yes, it is. Because players read the game. Some better than others. Kolo Toure and Cannavaro did just fine. If you watched him you’d see how good he is, instead of panicking about height. It’s like moaning he’s right footed without any context.
 
Delphacito said:
Yeah fuck right. If only you’re allowed to jump in football!

There are so many other variables in winning aerial duels : timing, positioning, jumping ability, aggresiveness, etc. If players can only head the ball from a standing stance then yeah people should be concerned. As it stands statistically Kounde wins more aerial battle than VVD.
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I remember Tyron Mings getting beaten in the air consistently last year against us. Heading is an art it’s not just about being a lanky sod. Tim Cahill and Cannavaro are both proof positives of that.
 
Folk saying he couldn’t defend big lads from corners? Look how many of our smaller players already do just that. Also it ain’t hard to go big for big at set pieces if you need to.
 
skyblues said:
I’ve seen the statistics but still, against any big and physical team (Liverpool is one), how is he supposed to stop a strong Fabinho, VVD or Gomez? It’s not happening.



He’s the best 2nd choice we have but I’m still very reluctant since he has to be on the shorter spectrum of all central defenders in Europe. We can’t just refer to Puyol as our comfort. He was exceptional.
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He wasnt the only exception theres been a fair few. Besides only need to watch him to know.
 
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