bluethrunthru
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Told my daughter today that she needs to join them asap. She wants to see Taylor Swift and you can guarantee Just Stop Oil will find a way into the Era's Tour lol
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Just Stop Oil protests
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The Future’s Blue!
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Is it too late, are we already past that point?
bluethrunthru
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Is it too late, are we already past that point?
Just making a call to Zaragoza to ask them...... I am currently on hold
The Colonel
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Fucking weird that we get pissed off by people disrupting Wimbledon, snooker and commuting. There’s a much bigger issue here that short term ego politics and our selfishness would rather ignore.
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The only action that would be of any use would be to stop making more people, do we really see that happening.Is the purpose of the protest to shock people into action?
If so, what action?
Lovebitesandeveryfing
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It's a silly slogan, but then slogans have to be simple. They can't be dissertations. That said, I'm broadly in agreement with the green movement. There simply is no alternative to transitioning away from global use of oil and coal.
And let's be honest: we live with huge contradictions. Virtually all of us.
And let's be honest: we live with huge contradictions. Virtually all of us.
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I agree. Why pick Orange as a colour? WeirdosFucking weird that we get pissed off by people disrupting Wimbledon, snooker and commuting. There’s a much bigger issue here that short term ego politics and our selfishness would rather ignore.
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I think it's fair to say that oil has given us the best 10 years ever to be City fans, it's given us Pep and the best team on the planet. Keep Oil Going! That's what I think.
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They have a moral idea probably started with good intentions that’s been latched onto by people with no idea how to communicate what they want and no plan with how they want to achieve what they want.
Their protests are simply pathetic. Do you think for one minute that jumping on a snooker table in Sheffield and throwing some orange powder all over while pulling some weird face and making a weird noise is going to make Sheikh Mansour shut down the IPIC wing of Mubadala and get all of his global oil and gas contacts to shut down their companies n’all?
These protests will be on Sheikh Mansour’s radar about as much as which way the wind’s blowing in Abu Dhabi is to any of us. He probably never thinks about them, let alone ever be affected by them.
I’ve also never seen an article or interview with anyone from this movement where they have put across their actual aims and how they think we should achieve them. It’s all simply incoherent.
A video popped up on here not long ago, where that Jacob Reece Mogg fella was having a conversation with one of these weirdos, and it very clearly came across that they haven’t got a clue. All the conversation was, was Mogg asking reasonable questions (bloody hell, I know!) and the responses were often in a shouty manner and just revised generic facts and excuses for not having an answer to the questions of, ‘I don’t know, I’m not a scientist’.
What’s the point? What’s the plan? Stop oil? When? How? Who is paying for it? On whose land are we putting the wind and solar farms? In which rivers and estuaries are we going to put the hydro farms? Who’s constructing these things? Do we have enough materials, men and money to construct enough to meet the timeframe of their demands? How will we make allowance on this island to meet the energy demands of the entire population in the time they want it?
Where’s the fleet of renewable-charged electric boats, HGVs, vans and cars that transport our food, clothes and other products that will be needed to transport everything we need by renewable sources by the time they want them? Who’s paying for them? Who’s constructing them? How much will they cost? Where are they all getting charged as well as all the general populations’ electric cars? How are petrol stations going to turn all of their docks to charging docks? Who’s building or converting these petrol/charging stations? Will there be enough of them to meet demand to charge cars by their deadline? Will there be enough renewable energy to meet demand to charge all of these electric vehicles? What will happen to all the oil+gas run stock of these vehicles? Where do they get left and how will it all affect people, wildlife and environment around where they’re left?
What if there’s a shortfall in energy supply to peoples’ homes and businesses by the date they demand the stopping of using fossil fuels that’s before our 2050 plan we already have? What is that date by the way? If it’s ‘now’ you’re fucking deluded!
What if the rises in costs for it to meet their deadline means that people will have to leave their family homes and put an end their businesses because they can’t afford it because the cost is always felt most by people with the least leeway to offer when it comes to money and their timeframes are just unrealistic?
Do they realise that we’re already doing things and already have a plan? It’s taken us 72 years to get from our first ever wind turbine to the point where we have 43% of our energy coming from renewables in Britain. But it’s forever accelerating.
The National Grid recently said, ‘On 15th May 2023, the UK produced its trillionth kilowatt hour (kWh) of electricity generated from renewable sources – enough to power UK homes for 12 years based on average consumption. While it took 50 years to reach this milestone, based on current projections it will take just over five years to reach the next trillionth kWh’.
We have a net zero aim of 2050, seems a long way away but it’s only the same as from Euro 96 in England just after City got relegated against Liverpool to the present day. I think that’s reasonable. Any quicker and you’d probably cost the families and businesses of 2023-2033 too much money to do it.
Of course, we need to get this done, it’s absolutely pathetic that a species as intelligent as homosapiens are in a situation where we have a source of clean energy that provides Earth with 173,000 terawatts continuously(!) and we barely harness any of it. And the rise in the Earth’s temperatures is seeing the extinction of many animal and plant species and that’s a genuine disgrace… but we can’t do it by next week.
This really is just a load of students, jobless and retired people with too much time on their hands and nothing better to do with no plan other than to piss off the wrong people.
Their protests are simply pathetic. Do you think for one minute that jumping on a snooker table in Sheffield and throwing some orange powder all over while pulling some weird face and making a weird noise is going to make Sheikh Mansour shut down the IPIC wing of Mubadala and get all of his global oil and gas contacts to shut down their companies n’all?
These protests will be on Sheikh Mansour’s radar about as much as which way the wind’s blowing in Abu Dhabi is to any of us. He probably never thinks about them, let alone ever be affected by them.
I’ve also never seen an article or interview with anyone from this movement where they have put across their actual aims and how they think we should achieve them. It’s all simply incoherent.
A video popped up on here not long ago, where that Jacob Reece Mogg fella was having a conversation with one of these weirdos, and it very clearly came across that they haven’t got a clue. All the conversation was, was Mogg asking reasonable questions (bloody hell, I know!) and the responses were often in a shouty manner and just revised generic facts and excuses for not having an answer to the questions of, ‘I don’t know, I’m not a scientist’.
What’s the point? What’s the plan? Stop oil? When? How? Who is paying for it? On whose land are we putting the wind and solar farms? In which rivers and estuaries are we going to put the hydro farms? Who’s constructing these things? Do we have enough materials, men and money to construct enough to meet the timeframe of their demands? How will we make allowance on this island to meet the energy demands of the entire population in the time they want it?
Where’s the fleet of renewable-charged electric boats, HGVs, vans and cars that transport our food, clothes and other products that will be needed to transport everything we need by renewable sources by the time they want them? Who’s paying for them? Who’s constructing them? How much will they cost? Where are they all getting charged as well as all the general populations’ electric cars? How are petrol stations going to turn all of their docks to charging docks? Who’s building or converting these petrol/charging stations? Will there be enough of them to meet demand to charge cars by their deadline? Will there be enough renewable energy to meet demand to charge all of these electric vehicles? What will happen to all the oil+gas run stock of these vehicles? Where do they get left and how will it all affect people, wildlife and environment around where they’re left?
What if there’s a shortfall in energy supply to peoples’ homes and businesses by the date they demand the stopping of using fossil fuels that’s before our 2050 plan we already have? What is that date by the way? If it’s ‘now’ you’re fucking deluded!
What if the rises in costs for it to meet their deadline means that people will have to leave their family homes and put an end their businesses because they can’t afford it because the cost is always felt most by people with the least leeway to offer when it comes to money and their timeframes are just unrealistic?
Do they realise that we’re already doing things and already have a plan? It’s taken us 72 years to get from our first ever wind turbine to the point where we have 43% of our energy coming from renewables in Britain. But it’s forever accelerating.
The National Grid recently said, ‘On 15th May 2023, the UK produced its trillionth kilowatt hour (kWh) of electricity generated from renewable sources – enough to power UK homes for 12 years based on average consumption. While it took 50 years to reach this milestone, based on current projections it will take just over five years to reach the next trillionth kWh’.
We have a net zero aim of 2050, seems a long way away but it’s only the same as from Euro 96 in England just after City got relegated against Liverpool to the present day. I think that’s reasonable. Any quicker and you’d probably cost the families and businesses of 2023-2033 too much money to do it.
Of course, we need to get this done, it’s absolutely pathetic that a species as intelligent as homosapiens are in a situation where we have a source of clean energy that provides Earth with 173,000 terawatts continuously(!) and we barely harness any of it. And the rise in the Earth’s temperatures is seeing the extinction of many animal and plant species and that’s a genuine disgrace… but we can’t do it by next week.
This really is just a load of students, jobless and retired people with too much time on their hands and nothing better to do with no plan other than to piss off the wrong people.
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