haha me either. That’s why we need a top class partner for Laporte and not a youngster.
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Kalidou Koulibaly
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haha me either. That’s why we need a top class partner for Laporte and not a youngster.
birchwoodgingerste
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Laporte koulibaly and rodri wud be a top back 3haha me either. That’s why we need a top class partner for Laporte and not a youngster.
Akpowell
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Let's see how it goes when the season restarts, after the long lay off Stones might have got his act together, he's had a long time too recover from his injuries and to get over his personal problems. It'll only take a few games to find out if he has or not
Come on now. START USING MORE OFTEN.Pep hasn't said we're moving more to 3ATB, Pep would never limit himself like that. Yes we do need a sensible left footed backup for Laporte but we need a starter NEXT to him. Fernandinho was intended this season to be CB cover and Stones the starter. It's obvious thats not going to be the case. A Young left footer behind Laporte and a starting CB next to him to replace whichever CB (if not both) of Stones and Otamendi we sell.
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Once again Laporte has played 90% of his City career with either Stones or Otamendi.
Fernandinho Is more trusted than either of them, Then why did Ferna sign a new deal?
Why did Pep & himself say that before signing his new deal, he had to meet the Target of playing in a certain % of games he's available to play in? (If he was only going to be a bench warmer next season)
If we are going to get a 60M LCB & a 60M RCB, then why give Fernandinho a year extension? To sit on the bench? And Block Garcia & Bellis?
If de Ligt can do "extremely well" in the Champions League at 19, in a weaker Ajax team with less experienced players around him, why can't Garcia?Yes, re de Ligt, I wanted him but in hindsight, would have been another expensive mistake. He’s failed miserably at Juve but ok he’s still young and has time. I got caught up in the hype, he was doing extremely well in the Champions League.
I also expected Stones to improve and he’s actually declined, these things happen.
Our group of central defenders is really poor. Other than Laporte who is class we have Stones, Otamendi, Fernandinho and Garcia.
Fernandinho is managing fine but he’s a short term fix. We need a major improvement and Koulibaly is that. Garcia isn’t.
There's absolutely no reason why Stones can't come good again either if he can sort out his personal life, hopefully this time away from football will help him to re-evaluate his circumstances and find some stability and contentment.
Fernandinho is the perfect short term insurance policy; if Garcia, Stones and I would also like to see Adaradiayo given an opportunity fail to emerge as Laporte's partner. We also have Rodri and Walker who can fill in during an emergency too.
Koulibaly is a brilliant player, absolutely top class every time I have seen him but he's still a risk as every player is. We've had so many serious long term injuries in recent years, it would be just our luck or he may just not settle, you never know. If you do sign him, there's very little chance of a decent resale value if things don't work out.
He plays on the left where laporte plays. We need someone for the right
Harry Maguire is right footed and played on the left and we definitely went after him last summer so I dont think Pep gives a shit what side they play for other teams.
Harry Maguire is right footed and played on the left and we definitely went after him last summer so I dont think Pep gives a shit what side they play for other teams.
Of course he does. We went after Maguire for a very simple reason:
1) we had 0 foreign slots left, so we could only get a homegrown CB
2) Maguire was the best homegrown CB available. Ake was left footed, but we saw Maguire to be our ideal Target.
Our current Situation is completely different from summer 2019.
A left footed CB is a very important advantage in the way we play.
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birchwoodgingerste
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I think lockdown has made stones realise he needs to be fitter hoping he comes good.
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As everyone has already commented we have just one assured world class CB in Laporte everyone else is a hit and go. Koulibaly and Garcia are two extremely talented players -one on his prime and lot of experience, the other one - talented and experienced. Every signing and player have a chance of failing - God we have seen many in our defence. The rest is all about probability. Garcia has a higher probability of failing against a Real or a Liverpool team, Koulibaly less so. So let's take our chances shall we ? We don't want to lose a Knockout UCL match or title decider game against Pool because we never took a chance of signing Koulibaly. Garcia will get his moments next season too.
P.S. My opinion rely on the fact that we don't pay an exorbitant amount for a defender again. If that's a case i would rather go for a younger defender which could set us up for a decade.
P.S. My opinion rely on the fact that we don't pay an exorbitant amount for a defender again. If that's a case i would rather go for a younger defender which could set us up for a decade.
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I’m not convinced by him. I think he would be a short term fix.
I still have hope stones will come good. There are plenty of games he’s played where he has been fantastic, but always seems to get injured when on form.
if we are going after someone. I’d rather go after a young centre back that we can grow or bring through Garcia and bellis. Have some faith in youth. If we don’t give Garcia a chance he will leave and potential first teamed will need a 50m replacement
I still have hope stones will come good. There are plenty of games he’s played where he has been fantastic, but always seems to get injured when on form.
if we are going after someone. I’d rather go after a young centre back that we can grow or bring through Garcia and bellis. Have some faith in youth. If we don’t give Garcia a chance he will leave and potential first teamed will need a 50m replacement
Of course he does. We went after Maguire for a very simple reason:
1) we had 0 foreign slots left, so we could only get a homegrown CB
2) Maguire was the best homegrown CB available. Ake was left footed, but we saw Maguire to be our ideal Target.
Our current Situation is completely different from summer 2019.
A left footed CB is a very important advantage in the way we play.
Which is why we have Laporte. Who needs a partner on the right. Who is right footed.
Our situation is exactly the same as in 2019. We need a partner for Laporte.
I think lockdown has made stones realise he needs to be fitter hoping he comes good.
Stones needed to do what Leon Goretzka has done at Bayern and put on about 10kg of muscle over the 3 month break.
Which is why we have Laporte. Who needs a partner on the right. Who is right footed.
Our situation is exactly the same as in 2019. We need a partner for Laporte.
Could you please tell me, how many games have we played without Laporte in the premier league since buying him? And what was our record?
In Laporte's first 50 games in the premier league, he has won 43(ish) of them. His CB partner in the majority of those games? Stones or Otamendi.
So clearly what we need is another Laporte.
3-4-3 system can accommodate 2 left footer, if none of the right footed options can be trusted in a back 4.
Could you please tell me, how many games have we played without Laporte in the premier league since buying him? And what was our record?
In Laporte's first 50 games in the premier league, he has won 43(ish) of them. His CB partner in the majority of those games? Stones or Otamendi.
So clearly what we need is another Laporte.
3-4-3 system can accommodate 2 left footer, if none of the right footed options can be trusted in a back 4.
Stones and Otamendi arent the same players they were 3 years ago. They arent good enough.
And yet Laporte is good enough to partner them for the majority of 18/19 season and win the league.Stones and Otamendi arent the same players they were 3 years ago. They arent good enough.
Those same guys that just a few months later, Fernandinho was more trusted by Pep compared to them.
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There's no way Dinho plays every game. With his age he'll need rest. Don't know how next season will pan out, but I can image lots of games in a short span.And yet Laporte is good enough to partner them for the majority of 18/19 season and win the league.
Those same guys that just a few months later, Fernandinho was more trusted by Pep compared to them.
There's no way Dinho plays every game. With his age he'll need rest. Don't know how next season will pan out, but I can image lots of games in a short span.
He is not gonna be expected to play every game. A starter that would hopefully be phased to the bench toward the second half of the season.
He has played 23 PL games and started 79% of them.
He has played 6 CL games and started 71% of them.
Pep trust him to begin the season as a starter, that why he was extended.
He is not gonna be expected to play every game. A starter that would hopefully be phased to the bench toward the second half of the season.
He has played 23 PL games and started 79% of them.
He has played 6 CL games and started 71% of them.
Pep trust him to begin the season as a starter, that why he was extended.
And because the dressing room needs leaders too. Fernandinho is going to be 35/36 he will not be a starter. I expect a new STARTING CB alongside Laporte and if the other of Stones/Otamendi goes, a second CB brought in. We don't need to splash out on another LCB figure because THATS WHAT LAPORTE IS FOR. We need a starter ALONGSIDE him. And cut out this whole we're turning into a 3ATB. We will never be set to one formation/system.
If Fernandinho is a regular starter next season we can wish the league title goodbye next year too
And because the dressing room needs leaders too. Fernandinho is going to be 35/36 he will not be a starter. I expect a new STARTING CB alongside Laporte and if the other of Stones/Otamendi goes, a second CB brought in. We don't need to splash out on another LCB figure because THATS WHAT LAPORTE IS FOR. We need a starter ALONGSIDE him. And cut out this whole we're turning into a 3ATB. We will never be set to one formation/system.
If Fernandinho is a regular starter next season we can wish the league title goodbye next year too
What do you have trouble comprehending about multiple formations?
Thats what Laporte is for, until he is no longer available.
The dressing room needs leaders... from the bench!? Right. I recon Kompany would make a great Bench Co-captain, with Fernandinho.
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What do you have trouble comprehending about multiple formations?
Thats what Laporte is for, until he is no longer available.
The dressing room needs leaders... from the bench!? Right. I recon Kompany would make a great Bench Co-captain, with Fernandinho.
I don't, you've been saying we're moving to 3ATB thats why we need another starting LCB etc, when in fact the priority is a starting CB alongside Laporte on the right side.
And well Kompany was a great leader off the field... don't get why you'd think the club would have a 36 year old DM starting at CB instead of buying a long term starter.