Kalidou Koulibaly

NorthamptonBlue said:
How old was Mangala when we signed him? Not sure we are getting 30-50% of his original fee back.
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Well Everton were supposedly going to pay £18m for him before he destroyed his knee. That was when he was 27, 4 years after signing him for 32-40m.
 
ninjamonkey said:
We are not a youth team, our model is to buy young before they hit their peak/highest value but it isn’t something we have to stick to religiously. For the right guy we will make exceptions. Fernandinho signed as a 28 year old that turned out alright. We have stones and Laporte for the next decade, Garcia coming up behind him, we need ready proven world class talent to replace the proven world class talent we’ve just lost. you have to balance the present and the future and experience is key to that.

We need a leader at the back, last season before Kompany came into the side, we had a period where we looked a bit unorganised and looked as though we could be got at, then Kompany steps in with his experience and leadership and we instantly turn into a side that only needed to score once as we knew we wouldn’t concede, we have to bring that in with whoever replaces Kompany as nobody else has that to the level we require. I don’t know if this guy does have that, that’s what our scouts are for but from the bits I’ve seen of him it looks as though he does.

As for the price, City won’t be afraid to pay it if they deem it value, we seemingly don’t want to pay £80 million for Maguire not because of the figure itself, but because he isnt one of the best defenders around and that’s what we would be expecting for that kind of money, it doesn’t mean we won’t pay that or more for somebody that is though.
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I agree with what you are saying but I don't believe that this guy is worth the figure that is being banded about. Its not his fault the market for defenders has been massively over inflated since van Dyke signed for the dippers (who turned out to be an absolute steal at £75mil). He is 28 years old and I personally would see this is your typical rag panic buy definitely not a Pep bring him in develop. Lets not forget we still have Fernandinho who if we are lead to believe reports is going to be moving to centre half just like Pep did with Mascherano we have a leader right there.
 
domalino said:
My entire post was about how Van Dijk was much lower risk than Koulibaly....why not read it before replying?

It would save me repeating everything about him already being familiar with premier league, already very settled in England, already fluent in English etc. etc.
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We're still dragging the PL familiarity narrative?
Quality players and especially of age know very well how to communicate, he's played with foreigners in that team too, and above all, most of our foreign players can still not speak English that well or aren't fluent, esp with likes of Laporte comin in and settling within a year and bossing our defence. Did PL experience, familiarity and language matter then? No.

Repeat my point about the age factor, if a player has enough quality and experience, irrelevant of league he plays in, he should be taken in if needed. We need someone like Koulibaly. It's just my opinion, I'm not here to conflict with everyone, I just don't see the value of money factor weighing more over the instant quality any squad can add. It's always relative, always risky.
 
Trautmann's Chiropractor said:
No way we’d deal with De Laurentiis again after last summer, let alone pay €95 million for a 28 year old.
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Great player, but waste of time for Txiki really.

Those who would sign him now should consider not €95m but surely above 100m, closer to 120m.
And a summer transfer saga included.

Further more, a decision to sign De Ligt or Koulibaly would be shock news for Stones.
He would have to think about leaving or accepting a lot of bench time...
 
Mike D said:
I He is 28 years old and I personally would see this is your typical rag panic buy definitely not a Pep bring him in develop.
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Mate if Koulibaly went to United he'd revolutionize that defence. Wouldn't wish them any good happening to them anytime soon.
 
Would any of you take Alderweireld instead given his clause rumored at €25m is actually true? For 2-3 years or so?
 
Not that I believe the deal will happen but hypothetically speaking £85m for a 28 y/o koulibaly is 10x a better deal than £75m for a 26 y/o maguire. I feel like some don't realise how good he is. He has literally everything you would want in a defender for this current city side. Physically strong, very good reading of the game, strong in the tackle and in the air, deceptively quick and very good passer on the ball with both feet. Imo there's almost no downside to this deal if it were to happen(him settling in the league probably being the only one) and he would easily be the best defender in the league(yes even over van dijk) that's how highly I rate him. You get a player for his peak years and at least 4 top seasons out of him if not more.

In fact the only deal where I'd value slightly more for a defender right now would be de ligt and that's purely for his age and upside but if you were to ask me which defender out of de ligt, maguire and koulibaly for the here and now who could elevate it than it already is, it would be the latter without a doubt. There's enough 'young' defenders in the side as it is, what is needed now especially with kompany gone is the experience and know how that he would bring which proved crucial during the final stretch last season where I actually felt he bailed and cleaned up for laporte a lot during that period as mistakes started creeping in his game and as good as he(laporte) and the others are none are on koulibaly's level yet who is currently what kompany was at his peak.
 
catalyst said:
Would any of you take Alderweireld instead given his clause rumored at €25m is actually true? For 2-3 years or so?
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Yes. The lack of links to him seems a bit bizarre to me.

Think it will be Maguire or sticking with Otamendi in the end.
 
MCFC ISRAEL said:
Of course he is not too old,you missing the point. The problem is the price. If you pay 95 M for a 20 year old player who has at least a decade in the team is one thing, but on a 28 year old player who has 3 maybe 4 good seasons ahead of him yes the price is very high.
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Or 5-6 years ala a Fernandinho. If he became integral over the next 3-4 years of continued success (and potentially CL success) it wouldbe a price worth paying.
 
Better defender than de Ligt, in my opinion. The Dutch has more potential though as he is so young.
 
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