Kalidou Koulibaly

thebluecatswhiskers said:
Granted, Stones has had his problems. He has made mistakes and I really am not advocating Stones as the answer to our obvious issues at the back. Koulibaly, however is no better. If we intend to blow an obscene amount of cash in a CB he needs to be outstanding. Koulibaly is definitely not. He is on a downwards trajectory and we will regret signing him. We can and should do better, this whiffs of desperation
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Hahahaha
 
Pubteam Lomas said:
They finished 7th and are in Europa League. Financially it's doesn't really pay. Chavs got £8.5 last year for winning it!
So this is a game of poker, but we've been at the table before with this prick so hopefully we know his tricks this time.
To be honest for a club that refuses to deal with certain agents it amazes me we will go in to talks with owners who've had us over before.
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I'm sure City are negotiating through Fali Ramadani
 
thebluecatswhiskers said:
Granted, Stones has had his problems. He has made mistakes and I really am not advocating Stones as the answer to our obvious issues at the back. Koulibaly, however is no better. If we intend to blow an obscene amount of cash in a CB he needs to be outstanding. Koulibaly is definitely not. He is on a downwards trajectory and we will regret signing him. We can and should do better, this whiffs of desperation
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KK no better than Stones. Top fishing
 
thebluecatswhiskers said:
Granted, Stones has had his problems. He has made mistakes and I really am not advocating Stones as the answer to our obvious issues at the back. Koulibaly, however is no better. If we intend to blow an obscene amount of cash in a CB he needs to be outstanding. Koulibaly is definitely not. He is on a downwards trajectory and we will regret signing him. We can and should do better, this whiffs of desperation
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God these fucking posters popping up with less than 50 posts in 3 years speaking shite after shite after shite.
It's the same format.
Negative slant, slag player off, drop a wumming comment in, absolutely nothing constructive in their post.
We get it you aren't a city fan and please don't come back and say you seen us play in division 3 as that's been done to death
Fuck.Me.
 
thebluecatswhiskers said:
Granted, Stones has had his problems. He has made mistakes and I really am not advocating Stones as the answer to our obvious issues at the back. Koulibaly, however is no better. If we intend to blow an obscene amount of cash in a CB he needs to be outstanding. Koulibaly is definitely not. He is on a downwards trajectory and we will regret signing him. We can and should do better, this whiffs of desperation
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KennyG said:
If we fail to bring in a top level forward, we certainly won’t. That’s arguably our biggest weakness, profligacy in front or goal. Jesus and Sterling couldn’t hit a cow on the arse with a stick
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Ah come on, we just hit another 100 league goals in this season. Sterling does have some howlers but his goals scored from the wing are insane. Even Aguero's show reel of misses wouldn't be easy to watch.
 
KennyG said:
If we fail to bring in a top level forward, we certainly won’t. That’s arguably our biggest weakness, profligacy in front or goal. Jesus and Sterling couldn’t hit a cow on the arse with a stick
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More bollocks.
 
KennyG said:
If we fail to bring in a top level forward, we certainly won’t. That’s arguably our biggest weakness, profligacy in front or goal. Jesus and Sterling couldn’t hit a cow on the arse with a stick
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Are you enjoying blowing your own saxophone?
 
MeatHunterrr said:
There is nobody better on the market! Koulibaly is top CB better than anyone we have by country mile.
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I'll never understand comments like this, unless you have an encyclopedic knowledge of every player in world football which no one here does and is practically impossible for a top class football club, nevermind an individual, then it's an ignorant claim to make and simply cannot be substantiated.

We've signed loads of players not considered the "best on the market" over the last 10 years and yet we've had some of the best players in the world who have signed for us (e.g. Kompany, Silva, Fernandinho, De Bruyne, Aguero). Fernandinho for example was 28 when we signed him and still at Shakhtar, no real competition for his signature from what I can remember and he's been the best defensive midfield player in world football for 4-5 years, if not more.
 
ctid1894 said:
I'll never understand comments like this, unless you have an encyclopedic knowledge of every player in world football which no one here does and is practically impossible for a top class football club, nevermind an individual, then it's an ignorant claim to make and simply cannot be substantiated.

We've signed loads of players not considered the "best on the market" over the last 10 years and yet we've had some of the best players in the world who have signed for us (e.g. Kompany, Silva, Fernandinho, De Bruyne, Aguero). Fernandinho for example was 28 when we signed him and still at Shakhtar, no real competition for his signature from what I can remember and he's been the best defensive midfield player in world football for 4-5 years, if not more.
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Fernandinho was well known. He ripped Chelsea apart in CL before we signed him, also Spurs tried to sign him in 2012 summer.

We have not signed any obscure gems like you seem to suggest. All of our signings bar Zinchenko had good reputation and were known. Even Jesus had interest from Barca and Bayern before signing for us.
 
ctid1894 said:
I'll never understand comments like this, unless you have an encyclopedic knowledge of every player in world football which no one here does and is practically impossible for a top class football club, nevermind an individual, then it's an ignorant claim to make and simply cannot be substantiated.

We've signed loads of players not considered the "best on the market" over the last 10 years and yet we've had some of the best players in the world who have signed for us (e.g. Kompany, Silva, Fernandinho, De Bruyne, Aguero). Fernandinho for example was 28 when we signed him and still at Shakhtar, no real competition for his signature from what I can remember and he's been the best defensive midfield player in world football for 4-5 years, if not more.
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KK is the best low risk signing. You are right to claim that no one can claim with any certainty that there aren't better players out there who are less well known but those players would also be a higher risk, and with a transfer window in operation, City are unlikely to take risks. The opportunity cost of not signing KK when he is available is enormous.
 
MeatHunterrr said:
Fernandinho was well known. He ripped Chelsea apart in CL before we signed him, also Spurs tried to sign him in 2012 summer.

We have not signed any obscure gems like you seem to suggest. All of our signings bar Zinchenko had good reputation and were known. Even Jesus had interest from Barca and Bayern before signing for us.
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Fernandinho was playing as an attacking midfielder for Shahktar, he certainly wasn't considered among the best defensive midfielders available.

I never said anything about obscure gems, that's made up rubbish to try and deflect from the original discussion. Truth remains, unless you have an encyclopedic knowledge of world footballers you can't claim Koulibaly is the best on the market because it's completely unsubstantiated and unverifiable.
 
KennyG said:
If we fail to bring in a top level forward, we certainly won’t. That’s arguably our biggest weakness, profligacy in front or goal. Jesus and Sterling couldn’t hit a cow on the arse with a stick
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Have you not watched the CL. Neyumar has missed sitter after sitter. It happens , even the best score 1 out of 2 or 3 chances. Why doesn't the average joe understand that.
Lewanddoski has missed a fair few too.
Only Rashford is perfect in front of goal.
 
Marvin said:
KK is the best low risk signing. You are right to claim that no one can claim with any certainty that there aren't better players out there who are less well known but those players would also be a higher risk, and with a transfer window in operation, City are unlikely to take risks. The opportunity cost of not signing KK when he is available is enormous.
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Low risk in terms of ability, I'd agree although I wouldn't necessarily say the best low risk. Low risk in terms of overall transfer, I'd strongly disagree.

High risk if the signing doesn't work out for whatever reason, you can't just sell him on and try again (e.g. Danilo > Cancelo) due to his age, the transfer fee and most likely the very high wages he'll command for a defender.

It's a huge gamble as far as I'm concerned, I certainly don't buy into this motion that if we don't get him we'll be relegated by Christmas bollocks that's for sure (not accusing you of that btw, just some of the other outlandish quotes we've seen in the thread).
 
Marvin said:
The opportunity cost of not signing KK when he is available is enormous.
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Spoken like someone who doesn’t know the opportunity cost, and who doesn’t have to pay the bills.

We have needs all over the park and smashing our transfer record for KK, which is where this looks like going, a 29 yr old with no PL experience, strikes me as having potentially very high costs.
 
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