Kalvin Phillips

Bigga said:
Honestly, I'm not really bothered. I've argued all day for the positive side of Phillips that I can't be arsed with negative 'fans' tearing down a player needing confidence that plays in our Blue shirt.

As long as he gets his head and confidence up, that'll do for me and whatever gets you guys off to knock him down I hope you cling to it.

Seen it since Edgehill, when it clicked with me he was a Boo Boy.

Didn't like it then and I don't like it now.
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This is a forum mate. Not the ground. A forum is used for debate, and a platform to do so. This is exactly the *forum* to discuss and question him. It doesn’t mean anyone is “tearing” or “knocking him down”.

If people booed him every time he touched the ball at the Etihad I would agree with you. However, they don’t - partly because Pep didn’t trust him to play, and partly because we know it’s not the time or the place.

Stating obvious facts around his playing time is just that - stating facts. It doesn’t mean he’s a boo boy, and certainly doesn’t mean people want him to fail. Far from it.

But not every signing works, and right now it doesn’t look like he will. I mean come on, in what serious game did Pep trust him. It must have been embarrassing for him.

Here’s hoping he steps up.
 
wolfie1988 said:
I think he'd better pushed higher up. He is too careless in possession to play that Rodri position where you are expected to be on the ball so much and receive it from every angle
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I think I mentioned on here before that he and Rice have tried to play that position for England before and both looked limited. They would basically hide behind the pressing opponents and offer no out ball for the keeper or defender in possession.

You have to be a highly intelligent player to play in that position, as well as extremely confident and comfortable on the ball. You have to enjoy the responsibility and having the ball.

But that's why you could count one on hand the players in that position anywhere near the level of Rodri in the whole of football.

So there's always going to be a big drop off in terms of quality if Rodri can't play, but id prefer to have a backup that at least looks a little bit comfortable in that position and understands positioning instead of looking like they're hiding.
 
Crooked_rain said:
I think I mentioned on here before that he and Rice have tried to play that position for England before and both looked limited. They would basically hide behind the pressing opponents and offer no out ball for the keeper or defender in possession.

You have to be a highly intelligent player to play in that position, as well as extremely confident and comfortable on the ball. You have to enjoy the responsibility and having the ball.

But that's why you could count one on hand the players in that position anywhere near the level of Rodri in the whole of football.

So there's always going to be a big drop off in terms of quality if Rodri can't play, but id prefer to have a backup that at least looks a little bit comfortable in that position and understands positioning instead of looking like they're hiding.
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Definitely, the thing with Kalvin is that I don't think he ever looks to be hiding from the ball for City or England. He just doesn't look like he's comfortable on it facing his own goal.

Whereas during the World Cup, Rice was definitely "hiding" and offered no easy pass out when Pickford, Stones or Maguire had the ball. Always felt with Rice that he just needs better coaching than what he would receive with Moyes et al. Give him 6-12 months and Arteta will have that right.
 
Any1aBlue said:
Easy champ -Everyone’s entitled to an opinion, as you point out, just don’t resort to aggressive personal abuse when it doesn’t concur with yours.
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I'm not resorting to anything. It's obvious you don't rate the guy but that's no reason to post over the top BS. I don't give a fuck what your opinion is, I'm not trying to convince you or anyone else of anything. In fact, I've plainly stated that personally I'm not sure how KP will play out here.

Take note I said you're being a prick, I didn't say you are one. But I can be persuaded fella...
 
I thought he looked very confused yesterday in terms of where to be to accept the ball.

Perrone looked more able at that.

But I suspect/hope that Philips gets better at that after another few games. I also suspect that he'll not be a direct alternative to Rodri. If Rodri is out then it'll be Phillips plus another filling in and we'll have to change formation. Philips just isn't able to do a Rodri role alone imo. But we'll see.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Errr, OK, but I replied to this….



I never said a word about whatever it us you’re going on about!

Never mentioned pressing or hustle or ANYTHING negative!

The goalkeeper was claiming that Phillips interfered with him as he scrambled across his goal. Phillips just stood his ground and tried to make himself small so Alvarez didn’t hit him! THAT was what I was referring to.

And, lest it go unnoticed, I’ve been one of the few who have asked for Phillips to be given a season to see if he can be City material. There is a player in there, but I’m not sure if he is a City (Best team in Europe) player or simply a decent Premier League player for the right team and right system for him.
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In the context of what was being posted non stop I took it to be another dig. My apologies if I misunderstood your post. I have no reason not to take you at your word...
 
FantasyIreland said:
The last few pages should give you the answer you are looking for.

Watched his Amazon documentary yesterday,he is a lovely lad.
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I watched it on Saturday night and agree. A lovely guy from a humble background who has pushed himself out of his comfort zone in joining us. He seemed really lacking in confidence. I was expecting a bit more swagger from him, but he's a quiet guy who needs the love from the manager and fans and may then settle down. He might just need a goal or a big moment to transform him. It happened with Jack. We all knew he just needed a goal or a match winning display and when it came he settled in and then his doubters saw all the other good things he was doing.

I can't help but feel Kalvin just doesn't fit our style though. He's excellent on the front foot, intercepting and he has a brilliant passing range, but he just doesn't have the ability to dictate the tempo of the game from deep in my opinion. We'll see.
 
it just looks to me it's as if he doesn't know where he needs to be on the pitch and players just go past him like he's not there then he makes an half arsed jog to catch up, he goes awol all the time, doesn't read the game, no awareness, but apart from that i hear he's not bad on the karaoke and likes a drink
 
lazerblue said:
it just looks to me it's as if he doesn't know where he needs to be on the pitch and players just go past him like he's not there then he makes an half arsed jog to catch up, he goes awol all the time, doesn't read the game, no awareness, but apart from that i hear he's not bad on the karaoke and likes a drink
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Based on the pics that made the press from his holidays one thing he likes is a beautiful girl. My lord what a pretty lady...
 
LOL!

I've just read some of the last couple of pages back and then read the John Stones page.

Do any of the high critics remember the vitriol Stones got in his early years at City? The lack of confidence? The mistakes? The ambitious bad passes? The vast injuries??

All the while, loads of posters wanted him gone. Never me and a bunch of others that fought his corner. Personally, I could see the spark in Stones, in order to push forward and play in mid more than I could when posters were calling for Kompany to do so.

I see a spark in the kid and as long as Phillips is here, I back him to rise and be a proper part of the wheel in midfield.
 
Bigga said:
LOL!

I've just read some of the last couple of pages back and then read the John Stones page.

Do any of the high critics remember the vitriol Stones got in his early years at City? The lack of confidence? The mistakes? The ambitious bad passes? The vast injuries??

All the while, loads of posters wanted him gone. Never me and a bunch of others that fought his corner. Personally, I could see the spark in Stones, in order to push forward and play in mid more than I could when posters were calling for Kompany to do so.

I see a spark in the kid and as long as Phillips is here, I back him to rise and be a proper part of the wheel in midfield.
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Stones was 22 when we signed him and we priced in that he'd take a few years to settle and he'd peak in his late 20s. Forget voices on a forum, Pep and the club always knew that was the plan. Saying Stones needed time is like saying Alvarez will need time.

Kalvin, on the other hand, is 27: he ain't a kid. He's only a few years younger than Mateo Kovačić who we've signed as a wise old pro who won't need time to settle.

If he wants a career here he needs to kick on now. I've said elsewhere, I think it would be best for all concerned if we treat this season like his first one, and settle for glimpses of a player he could become next year, but he hasn't got time to develop slowly.
 
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