Kalvin Phillips

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Just not involved at all whatever the circumstances. He needs to move on.

Must be difficult to be sat there watching as every other player gets on at some point. Even with late substitutions he doesn’t figure.
 
MarsLlama said:
Can't agree. Pep gave him chances and found a player who was not even close to the technical ability required, not even at the level of our academy players. That isn't Pep's fault.
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But Pep is seemingly willing to get rid of Cancelo at a loss to the club for his attitude and dressing room incidents.
Could he not do the same regarding Philips and his footballing involvement
 
i still like him as a player and he seems like he is a great bloke to have around but yeah, he probably just isnt a fit here, not comfortable enough on the ball and at reading the game. i reckon hes still worth a decent fee, being an England international and all that
 
If he doesnt wake up this morning knowing he has no future here,then he must either be living in cloud cuckoo land and/or he is thick as pigshit.

Take the massive hint Kalvin,playing for City aint for everyone........its no disgrace,so go and rebuild your career and reputation at West Ham
 
Nothing wrong imo with him not coming on tonight. McAtee was on for barely any time and Palmer is sort of in the shop window.

It's a loooooooong season.
 
decmancity said:
Pep needs to take as much blame as anyone.
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Pep signed Zlatan at a big fee too, but then kicked him to the curb when he wasn't able to grasp what Pep wanted on the field.

Pep wants a "top top top top top top top team" according to his quote in the all of northing documentary. He doesn't want "basics of footballs". He wants rocket scientists.

I just don't see Kalvin making the grade in advanced football calculus.
 
ninjamonkey said:
He wasn't ready to play last season, unfortunate for him but he's not the first to suffer an injury early missing the bedding in period then get fit and find himself unable to get minutes because they're not fully upto scratch with what pep wants and we don't have games where we can afford the risk.

I don't believe we should be using last season against him at all, the likes of rodri, grealish and ake and how their first seasons went should be enough for us to refuse to make snap judgements.

As I said myself, tonight is a game for him to come in for the last period, it's not a good sign that he didn't but it's 1 game in, and it's crazy to be making the kind of calls we're seeing here.
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He was injury free before the World Cup, after which he came home, then went partying in NY, returning to training overweight. That wasn't unfortunate , it was idiotic, just like his "look at me" haircut & tatts.

Some on here say what a "nice lad" he is ; being a likeable character doesn't win games or titles. Thorough, relentless commitment to professional footballing excellence does, and his silly visit to NY , followed by his silly excuse afterwards , was the opposite of that.

It's clear he's unlikely to kick another ball for us, and soon enough, Pep's going to stop naming him as an unused sub , which I think he's been doing in order to let him repeatedly watch the other subs warm up & run on , in the hope that he gets the hint. It appears though , from his conduct, that Kalvin's a bit too damn thick to figure that out.
 
TonyM said:
Nothing wrong imo with him not coming on tonight. McAtee was on for barely any time and Palmer is sort of in the shop window.

It's a loooooooong season.
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Hardly a good sign is it?

If he was going to play any sort of part in our season he would be getting minutes.

This is a very different situation to players under Pep that took time to settle and realize their role, Phillips simply looks lost on and off the pitch, he looks overwhelmed and for me he knows it to.
 
Paul1970 said:
This guy needs to have the season of his life because Rodri cannot play every game and Phillips needs to kick on . I’d play him tonight tbh
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Love him to come in even for one game and show some personality on the pitch, not seen anything yet to suggest he will, sadly.
 
Bez said:
Someone needs to slap him on the face when he comes on the pitch or give him the smelling salts they used to give the wrestlers when they were on the floor during Grandstand (younger forum members will have no idea what I am on about). This will improve his performance by 5% I am sure of it.
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The kids do coke these days not smelling salts ;)
 
Bez said:
Someone needs to slap him on the face when he comes on the pitch or give him the smelling salts they used to give the wrestlers when they were on the floor during Grandstand (younger forum members will have no idea what I am on about). This will improve his performance by 5% I am sure of it.
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Grandstand never showed wrestling, it wat ITVs World of Sport.
Yes, I am a FoC :)
 
I thought a lot of Philips comments post-season were delusional. Like he was trying to convince himself rather than his doubters. The comments about being "close to getting it" in regards to what Pep demands look a bit silly. I'm sure he is a nice guy but lacks in ability and mentality to play for City. The sooner he realizes that the better.
 
Despite having countless examples Bluemooners still fall for the trap that a player will never make it here. And don’t give me that point about “other players who eventually found their feet showed signs that they would come good unlike Kalvin.” I recall it was said about Nathan Ake that he wasn’t our level and he’d never come good.

We make this judgment call every time and we get it wrong every time. By now I thought we’d be humble to see how things pan out in the second season at the very least but no, we want to make the definitive judgement now.
 
ojeme said:
Despite having countless examples Bluemooners still fall for the trap that a player will never make it here. And don’t give me that point about “other players who eventually found their feet showed signs that they would come good unlike Kalvin.” I recall it was said about Nathan Ake that he wasn’t our level and he’d never come good.

We make this judgment call every time and we get it wrong every time. By now I thought we’d be humble to see how things pan out in the second season at the very least but no, we want to make the definitive judgement now.
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I don’t see many saying he isn’t good enough based on their own judgement of him. It’s more that the evidence overwhelmingly suggests Pep doesn’t trust him.
I mean to not give him 15 mins last night when the game was won - why?

I’m not sure as to what you have seen that makes you think he will suddenly break in. I’m not saying he isn’t good enough - I genuinely don’t know, as I haven’t seen him enough for us, as Pep clearly doesn’t rate him!
 
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