Karim Rekik

Neville Kneville said:
Is Virgil Van Dijk in there ? He looks miles better than most of the other clowns to me.
No, he's not incredibly enough.

Same goes for Douglas at Dinamo Moscow. They both never get a look in.
 
So,is it fair enough to conclude,given his selection......that Rekik is considered the better player of the two?
 
FantasyIreland said:
So,is it fair enough to conclude,given his selection......that Rekik is considered the better player of the two?

No, he's not.

Guus Hiddink is biased towards PSV players.

Rekik has been extremely average so far this season for PSV.
 
SCF08 said:
FantasyIreland said:
So,is it fair enough to conclude,given his selection......that Rekik is considered the better player of the two?

No, he's not.

Guus Hiddink is biased towards PSV players.

Rekik has been extremely average so far this season for PSV.

I'm happy for Rekik that he's got the chance to figure in the international squad. It's great for him & for us, & I hope he stars for them. I saw him in the last game when he scored the winner & he was comfortable most of the time, as he was in the last game I saw him before that & I can see improvements but all of a sudden, ah fuck it I won't mention it.

Van Dijk has faults but he has so many of the things you would want from a cb, if I was rebuilding I would start with him, faults and all, build around him, & only drop him if he failed after a period of time. I haven't seen all Dutch cbs, but from what I have seen, none of them are ft to even think about lacing his boots.

I would offer Celtic both Rekik & Nastasic to get him to City as one of our 4 cbs. Miles better chance of making it than both put together.
 
Well, there are mixed opinions about him him but Juventus are very well known for their scouting ability (Coman, Pogba, Morata, etc.) and have shortlisted him and Fabian Schar (Basel) as elite young prospects to try and sign for defence soon.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.tuttosport.com/calcio/serie_a/juventus/2014/11/14-312331/Juve%2C+da+Rekik+a+Schar%3A+%C3%A8+caccia+al+talento" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.tuttosport.com/calcio/serie_ ... al+talento</a>
 
Isn't it obvious how we could try and use him in a deal?

Makes sense to me especially as i think Denayer is the better player.
 
FantasyIreland said:
Isn't it obvious how we could try and use him in a deal?

Makes sense to me especially as i think Denayer is the better player.

As long as it comes in the form of the unwanted and hazard-esque bakkali. There's a reason this kid's head has gotten too big. He really is going to be that good. Surrounding him with the likes of Aguero, Silva, and his country compatriot, Kompany, should level him quite quickly though. Worth the chance. Future Belgian core of Denayer, Bakkali, and Tielemans. Make it happen Txiki
 
Bokonon said:
FantasyIreland said:
Isn't it obvious how we could try and use him in a deal?

Makes sense to me especially as i think Denayer is the better player.

As long as it comes in the form of the unwanted and hazard-esque bakkali. There's a reason this kid's head has gotten too big. He really is going to be that good. Surrounding him with the likes of Aguero, Silva, and his country compatriot, Kompany, should level him quite quickly though. Worth the chance. Future Belgian core of Denayer, Bakkali, and Tielemans. Make it happen Txiki

I suggested that deal a long time ago, but is Bakkali still actually alive ? He really did look the dog's bollocks but how long has he been 'disappeared' for now ? Bizarre state of affairs. Like North Korea reserves.

Do we know he can still actually do the business ?
 
Neville Kneville said:
Bokonon said:
FantasyIreland said:
Isn't it obvious how we could try and use him in a deal?

Makes sense to me especially as i think Denayer is the better player.

As long as it comes in the form of the unwanted and hazard-esque bakkali. There's a reason this kid's head has gotten too big. He really is going to be that good. Surrounding him with the likes of Aguero, Silva, and his country compatriot, Kompany, should level him quite quickly though. Worth the chance. Future Belgian core of Denayer, Bakkali, and Tielemans. Make it happen Txiki

I suggested that deal a long time ago, but is Bakkali still actually alive ? He really did look the dog's bollocks but how long has he been 'disappeared' for now ? Bizarre state of affairs. Like North Korea reserves.

Do we know he can still actually do the business ?
Bakkali has been axed from both the first team and reserve squad. His behaviour is an absolute disgrace and totally unacceptable. He only played well for about 5/6 games at the start of last season and that was it.

His contract end this summer and Atletico Madrid are rumoured to be interested and they want to loan him out to Lille. You can always take a chance on him but he's a complete liability mentally.

City are tracking both Feyenoord central defenders as I expected earlier. They're much better than Rekik or any other young defender in Holland.

Article from De Telegraaf today
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/voetbal/feyenoord/23361872/__Scouts_City__Borussia_bij_Kuip__.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/voetb ... uip__.html</a>
 
LoveCity said:
Well, there are mixed opinions about him him but Juventus are very well known for their scouting ability (Coman, Pogba, Morata, etc.) and have shortlisted him and Fabian Schar (Basel) as elite young prospects to try and sign for defence soon.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.tuttosport.com/calcio/serie_a/juventus/2014/11/14-312331/Juve%2C+da+Rekik+a+Schar%3A+%C3%A8+caccia+al+talento" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.tuttosport.com/calcio/serie_ ... al+talento</a>


Like the Juventus prospects but Fabian Scharr is really tested in Swiss Super League and the transfer fee would be too high. He hasn't been really that good even though he has champions league expereince and but look what real madrid did against them and then again their in the swiss league. Look what happened to Mangala although he has potential. Still imagine fabian getting used to the premier league.
 
EllisMCFC said:
LoveCity said:
Well, there are mixed opinions about him him but Juventus are very well known for their scouting ability (Coman, Pogba, Morata, etc.) and have shortlisted him and Fabian Schar (Basel) as elite young prospects to try and sign for defence soon.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.tuttosport.com/calcio/serie_a/juventus/2014/11/14-312331/Juve%2C+da+Rekik+a+Schar%3A+%C3%A8+caccia+al+talento" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.tuttosport.com/calcio/serie_ ... al+talento</a>


Like the Juventus prospects but Fabian Scharr is really tested in Swiss Super League and the transfer fee would be too high. He hasn't been really that good even though he has champions league expereince and but look what real madrid did against them and then again their in the swiss league. Look what happened to Mangala although he has potential. Still imagine fabian getting used to the premier league.

Wonder what we'd consider selling him for.
 
MC ID said:
EllisMCFC said:
LoveCity said:
Well, there are mixed opinions about him him but Juventus are very well known for their scouting ability (Coman, Pogba, Morata, etc.) and have shortlisted him and Fabian Schar (Basel) as elite young prospects to try and sign for defence soon.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.tuttosport.com/calcio/serie_a/juventus/2014/11/14-312331/Juve%2C+da+Rekik+a+Schar%3A+%C3%A8+caccia+al+talento" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.tuttosport.com/calcio/serie_ ... al+talento</a>


Like the Juventus prospects but Fabian Scharr is really tested in Swiss Super League and the transfer fee would be too high. He hasn't been really that good even though he has champions league expereince and but look what real madrid did against them and then again their in the swiss league. Look what happened to Mangala although he has potential. Still imagine fabian getting used to the premier league.

Wonder what we'd consider selling him for.

Would be a good place to go on loan, the next step to see if he really can defend properly vs proper teams. Too many easy games where he is now. Some games he can go for 30 mins without even having to win a challenge.

Only saw him for 2nd half at weekend, but he had a very decent game, but again vs proper crap though. really shocking standard. Still, he got in some good blocks & actually got in a really good leap for a header at one point, against quite a big forward, which was more like what he used to do as a young kid & much better than I'm used to seeing him do in recent years.
 
From TuttoMercato Web
Fabbrica di giovani e talento, il PSV Eindhoven sta mettendo in mostra uno dei più giovani prospetti della Eredivisie come Karim Rekik. Che ha vent'anni ed è tornato in Olanda in prestito dal Manchester City. Il club di Cocu ha una curiosità particolare: degli undici giocatori più utilizzati, il più 'vecchio' è Luuk de Jong, che di anni ne ha solo 24. E Rekik è tra i più giovani, con i Citizens che stanno apprezzando una stagione super del talento, secondo più utilizzato solo alle spalle del ventitreenne portiere Jeroen Zoet. Presente PSV, futuro City. Rekik, segnatevi questo nome. Ne risentirete parlare, anche in Premier League.

Factory of young and talented , the PSV Eindhoven is showcasing one of the youngest prospects of the Eredivisie as Karim Rekik . Who has twenty years and returned to Holland on loan from Manchester City . The club Cocu has a particular curiosity : the eleven players most used , the more ' old ' is Luuk de Jong , who has years of only 24. And Rekik is among the youngest , with Citizens who are enjoying a super season talent , second only used behind the twenty-three goalkeeper Jeroen Zoet . PSV Present , Future City. Rekik here, take note this name . It will feel to speak , even in the Premier League .
Shit translation but comprehendable.
 
Is it fair to say another season on loan in Holland wasn't the correct move?

I'd have preferred Rekik having a season at a top Championship side, rather than in Dutch football. That way he'd have been a little more used to defending in English football.

It's one thing defending in Holland, it's a completely different animal defending in the battle of English football.

I think Rekik has a lot of quality and potential, even if he may not be our style of CB, but it seems like a bit of a wasted year.
 
CityFan94 said:
Is it fair to say another season on loan in Holland wasn't the correct move?

I'd have preferred Rekik having a season at a top Championship side, rather than in Dutch football. That way he'd have been a little more used to defending in English football.

It's one thing defending in Holland, it's a completely different animal defending in the battle of English football.

I think Rekik has a lot of quality and potential, even if he may not be our style of CB, but it seems like a bit of a wasted year.

I disagree, the Eredivisie is still better than the Championship, well the top teams anyway, and he will develop a much more cultured approach to defending which is what I think all young defenders should learn first before they they get into rough and tumble type defending.

He could be a title winner with PSV this season as well which will do wonders for his mentality.

I still think neither Rekik or Denayer are ready for our squad yet and I hope with them both impressing on their loans I hope they can move on to another loan in a better league.

I hope Txiki's connections can get a few of our youngsters loans in Spain.
 
I'm not convinced Rekik will ever have a career at City, but as long as he has a career in football then the academy has done part 1 of its job. If he can either play a role in our squad or generate a transfer fee then it's done part 2.

I think he is a good player but I'm not sure he has what it takes to play in the premier league. He's a perfect fit for Italian football though.
 
I think it was a good move him going to PSV this season, but I don't think it's any use at all him being there any longer having watched quite a few games this season. He has looked poor vs the best teams imo, but in the games I've seen recently the standard of opposition has been so desperately poor, that he can literally not take part in the game apart from going & fetching the ball, & passing it.

When he has had to defend, he's done quite well recently, but often he's just stood in his own half, & the ball lands nearby, then he collects it, passes it & that's it. Job done for a while. Gets the ball from the keeper, passes. Job done etc.

I don't agree that is better for him than playing in the Championship. I think he would be severely tested in that league & have to be active defensively for most of the game. It's not as technical, but that's not his weak area anyhow. He would have much more work to do in the Championship & meet up with some tough centre forwards & some quick ones, & have to stop them. I recon he would find it really difficult, & that's good. He learns, & we learn about him.
 
sam-caddick said:
CityFan94 said:
Is it fair to say another season on loan in Holland wasn't the correct move?

I'd have preferred Rekik having a season at a top Championship side, rather than in Dutch football. That way he'd have been a little more used to defending in English football.

It's one thing defending in Holland, it's a completely different animal defending in the battle of English football.

I think Rekik has a lot of quality and potential, even if he may not be our style of CB, but it seems like a bit of a wasted year.

I disagree, the Eredivisie is still better than the Championship, well the top teams anyway, and he will develop a much more cultured approach to defending which is what I think all young defenders should learn first before they they get into rough and tumble type defending.

He could be a title winner with PSV this season as well which will do wonders for his mentality.

I still think neither Rekik or Denayer are ready for our squad yet and I hope with them both impressing on their loans I hope they can move on to another loan in a better league.

I hope Txiki's connections can get a few of our youngsters loans in Spain.


Their's only 3 teams that would survive in the championship in the eredivise PSV, Ajax, and Feynoord. I don't know where your head is at but the Championship is way better than the Eredivise and even the top teams to are better than the PSV and Feynoord but not Ajax.Only team that is better Ajax. The Championship was better in technical and physical skills.
 
EllisMCFC said:
sam-caddick said:
CityFan94 said:
Is it fair to say another season on loan in Holland wasn't the correct move?

I'd have preferred Rekik having a season at a top Championship side, rather than in Dutch football. That way he'd have been a little more used to defending in English football.

It's one thing defending in Holland, it's a completely different animal defending in the battle of English football.

I think Rekik has a lot of quality and potential, even if he may not be our style of CB, but it seems like a bit of a wasted year.

I disagree, the Eredivisie is still better than the Championship, well the top teams anyway, and he will develop a much more cultured approach to defending which is what I think all young defenders should learn first before they they get into rough and tumble type defending.

He could be a title winner with PSV this season as well which will do wonders for his mentality.

I still think neither Rekik or Denayer are ready for our squad yet and I hope with them both impressing on their loans I hope they can move on to another loan in a better league.

I hope Txiki's connections can get a few of our youngsters loans in Spain.


Their's only 3 teams that would survive in the championship in the eredivise PSV, Ajax, and Feynoord. I don't know where your head is at but the Championship is way better than the Eredivise and even the top teams to are better than the PSV and Feynoord but not Ajax.Only team that is better Ajax. The Championship was better in technical and physical skills.
Great analysis there mate.. lol
 

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