Keir Starmer

There are probably more important issues than pigeonholing which class a politician‘s family may or may not be.

The haunted pencil comes from the most upper class, yet that’s irrelevant too. He’s a **** whatever class he is.
 
Labour are many people at present.

Starmer - an authoritarian devoid of imagination or vision.
Reeves - Who has disinterest in public funding and no empathy for the vunerable in society, a chancelor in the osbourne mould
Lammy - A grifter and gobshite
Streeting - Open to privatising more of the NHS
Nandy - Pontless
Milliband - Has abandoned his principaled idea for a more greener future.

With mandleson in the background despising anyone not to the right of the party
Cunts like him and Akehurst poision a one proud socialist and social democratic party

Those who have an ounce of a differing opinion are deselected or expelled, this present labour has kicked out or purged it's member more than previous, it is no longer a party for all, and that starts with the leader.

I have said it before, Labour will win and it will be better than the shitshow in government now but best on offer will be a rehash of the 2010 tory/libdem government of austerity and make do.
There’s always a purge of people who do not support the current leadership values, it’s all part of the system of control.

I’ll wait-out on labelling a party that hasn‘t been given the opportunity to lead, I’m thinking people will be pleasantly surprised once the Tories are out and Labours plans start to kick-in.
 
Does being a contractor make someone less working class than being an employee?

Like I said he is trying to sell a narrative and only dishonest posters won't admit it. His upbringing was not as one imagines a working class upbringing to be in the classical sense.

He will be the next PM
You will vote for him
I won't

None of the above changes whether he plays Oliver twist or not but it shows his awareness outside the Westminster bubble is as bad as most politicians.
 
Like I said he is trying to sell a narrative and only dishonest posters won't admit it. His upbringing was not as one imagines a working class upbringing to be in the classical sense.

He will be the next PM
You will vote for him
I won't

None of the above changes whether he plays Oliver twist or not but it shows his awareness outside the Westminster bubble is as bad as most politicians.
Sounds like you’ve swallowed the counter narrative like your mate Brewster.
 
Sounds like you’ve swallowed the counter narrative like your mate Brewster.

This is your main problem anyone who doesn't agree with you must belong to the 'other side' your mate? How adult are you? Pmsl

Like i said you know what he's doing and so do I but you can't admit the guy you are voting for is flawed. He's your guy now, your team. And even though its only a football forum and it makes no difference you still lack the honesty to call it.

You should be in a serving cabinet really, a nice little pet who follows the narrative no matter what. We see it everyday toe the party line no matter how daft it looks.

The only difference between you and a Trump supporter is your politics. If you class bland status quo middle of the road as a political stance.

Make Surburbia comfortable again. Fit that on a baseball cap.

A beige baseball cap.
 
The only reason Starmer's upbringing is a talking point is because the fucker appears to unable to articulate anything without referencing it.

It is irrelevant, it is against the backdrop of a Tory implosion and he is up against Rishi fucking Sunak. There really is no need to come across as trying so hard.
 
We lived with the left and their choice to allow the Tories to rip this country apart. And, we’re now meant to listen to them now that the country has been smashed?
 
This is your main problem anyone who doesn't agree with you must belong to the 'other side' your mate? How adult are you? Pmsl

Like i said you know what he's doing and so do I but you can't admit the guy you are voting for is flawed. He's your guy now, your team. And even though its only a football forum and it makes no difference you still lack the honesty to call it.

You should be in a serving cabinet really, a nice little pet who follows the narrative no matter what. We see it everyday toe the party line no matter how daft it looks.

The only difference between you and a Trump supporter is your politics. If you class bland status quo middle of the road as a political stance.

Make Surburbia comfortable again. Fit that on a baseball cap.

A beige baseball cap.
What a load of crap. Do you realise how pathetic you sound when you join in with a right wing pile-on on Starmer for some perceived minor exaggeration of his background and then compare someone who doesn’t see it like you as being as blinkered as blindly supporting a former US President who has spent his whole life lying, cheating and breaking the law.

The fact that you wouldn’t vote for his party suggests you’re looking for a reason not to vote for a party that isn’t as right wing as you would like, and are making out that the personality and perceived inconsistencies of a fairly bland political leader are more important than years of proven failure brought to us by the current government.

By the way, what the fuck is a “working class upbringing in the classical sense”.
 
What a load of crap. Do you realise how pathetic you sound when you join in with a right wing pile-on on Starmer for some perceived minor exaggeration of his background and then compare someone who doesn’t see it like you as being as blinkered as blindly supporting a former US President who has spent his whole life lying, cheating and breaking the law.

The fact that you wouldn’t vote for his party suggests you’re looking for a reason not to vote for a party that isn’t as right wing as you would like, and are making out that the personality and perceived inconsistencies of a fairly bland political leader are more important than years of proven failure brought to us by the current government.

By the way, what the fuck is a “working class upbringing in the classical sense”.

Err I don't join in with any pile on, that's the point and you seem to be obsessed with sides. I don't need to look for a reason to not vote for anyone you silly sod. I vote for the green party and j certainly don't need to come on here and justify it.

And by the way I don't like Starmer and the current direction of Labour because they are too far to the right you daft donk. Try paying attention a bit more.

I will state your problem again.

It doesn't matter how often someone slates the Tories which I have often any negative towards Mr Creosote and you go full on must be a right wing poster mode. I told you what you were and your reply actually confirmed it, its quite sad you don't see it.

Finally the part about working class definition, that's your dishonesty coming in again because you know what I mean. It's pretty sad trying to save face with posters on a football forum that you don't even know.

If you can't be honest and don't take into consideration people may not be keen on either the Tories or Labour, as shocking as that is, don't bother replying to my posts.
 

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