Keir Starmer

[urban genie]

Seems he’s not doing too bad for a middle class, toolmakers son.

Correct a middle calss chap with a working class background of a self employed father and mother who was a nusse.

He left that life near 40yrs ago and has since moved up our archaic class system.
Suggesting class is an inheritable character traiit, about what your parents did or maybe how you grew up, not what you do in your later life is meaningless pantomine, plus trying to turn it into a cultural identity by mentioning a nostalgic slant about tradesmen or factory work (something starmer has never experienced) as his does a lot excludes the modern day working class who work in many post industrial blue and white colar jobs and come from diverse communities.
It doesn't matter what Starmer parents did or what class they were, no labour leader post war has ever been working class or really pretended to be or felt the need to tell us, in fact this is a traditional tory narrative to push, Thatcher the hard woking grocers daughter who could become a PM in a world where women were second class, Major the humble lad from Brixton come good etc etc.
What Starmers dad does won't decide what he does as PM, his 40 years working in the law and politics will.
lets be honest no fucker in parliament has a vested interest in the people anymore or does it as a vocation, its just a big grift and well paid career nowadays, who ever is in charge will be at one level of self interest, lining their pockets with lobyists and fucking over the people, just some will do it less than others and be not as cruel.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Correct a middle calss chap with a working class background of a self employed father and mother who was a nusse.

He left that life near 40yrs ago and has since moved up our archaic class system.
Suggesting class is an inheritable character traiit, about what your parents did or maybe how you grew up, not what you do in your later life is meaningless pantomine, plus trying to turn it into a cultural identity by mentioning a nostalgic slant about tradesmen or factory work (something starmer has never experienced) as his does a lot excludes the modern day working class who work in many post industrial blue and white colar jobs and come from diverse communities.
It doesn't matter what Starmer parents did or what class they were, no labour leader post war has ever been working class or really pretended to be or felt the need to tell us, in fact this is a traditional tory narrative to push, Thatcher the hard woking grocers daughter who could become a PM in a world where women were second class, Major the humble lad from Brixton come good etc etc.
What Starmers dad does won't decide what he does as PM, his 40 years working in the law and politics will.
lets be honest no fucker in parliament has a vested interest in the people anymore or does it as a vocation, its just a big grift and well paid career nowadays, who ever is in charge will be at one level of self interest, lining their pockets with lobyists and fucking over the people, just some will do it less than others and be not as cruel.

If that’s the case then we might as well not be here discussing it. Personally, I’m not interested in Starmer, I’m interested in what the Labour Party can do for the country and, from what I’m seeing, it’s going to be a lot more than what any other party can offer.

Labour aren’t Starmer, as they weren’t Corbyn when he was leader. It’s the collective of ideas that lead to policies which will, in my view, lift some of the gloom that we have had to endure for far too long.

 

[urban genie]

If that’s the case then we might as well not be here discussing it. Personally, I’m not interested in Starmer, I’m interested in what the Labour Party can do for the country and, from what I’m seeing, it’s going to be a lot more than what any other party can offer.

Labour aren’t Starmer, as they weren’t Corbyn when he was leader. It’s the collective of ideas that lead to policies which will, in my view, lift some of the gloom that we have had to endure for far too long.

Labour are many people at present.

Starmer - an authoritarian devoid of imagination or vision.
Reeves - Who has disinterest in public funding and no empathy for the vunerable in society, a chancelor in the osbourne mould
Lammy - A grifter and gobshite
Streeting - Open to privatising more of the NHS
Nandy - Pontless
Milliband - Has abandoned his principaled idea for a more greener future.

With mandleson in the background despising anyone not to the right of the party
Cunts like him and Akehurst poision a one proud socialist and social democratic party

Those who have an ounce of a differing opinion are deselected or expelled, this present labour has kicked out or purged it's member more than previous, it is no longer a party for all, and that starts with the leader.

I have said it before, Labour will win and it will be better than the shitshow in government now but best on offer will be a rehash of the 2010 tory/libdem government of austerity and make do.

 

[west didsblue]

Think Keith's dad was a toolmaker in his own business. Slightly dubious picture he is painting. Seems a bit obsessed with being something his family wasn't.

I mean compared to the toff twats in opposition being a bit posh from a middle class family is perfectly fine. He should probably leave it alone now the daft donk.

Always amuses me when his detractors mention that his dad ran his own business to try and downplay his working class background when the reality was that he was a contract worker rather than a direct employee in the places he worked. He didn’t have a company, he was a sole trader. Calling it his own business may not be factually totally incorrect but it’s somewhat misleading.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

obviously I am not as I have praised the policy in nearly every comment.

I am saying he needs to stop needlessly equating every policy to him being working class and making it sound like it was burden being so.

I am proud of my working class heritage and it never was something I needed to break from and never will, being working class didn't stop me achieving any goals, living in an capitalist society did, maybe a leader of a party that fundemently was built on oposing capitaism and bringing in a egalitarian classless society should focus on that.

Maybe he's trying to win votes from or triangulate to people with bigger aspirations?

Such as winning a spelling bee :)

 

[urban genie]

Maybe he's trying to win votes from or triangulate to people with bigger aspirations?

Such as winning a spelling bee :)

He is the type of **** who watches Saturday Kitchen Live I expect tbf, and so probably targetting the same types.


Also jokes about my lack of proof reading mean fuck all, been done many at time over many years on this forum, I ain't planning on changing or getting bothered at the attempted insults about it ;-)

 

[Brewster's millions]

Always amuses me when his detractors mention that his dad ran his own business to try and downplay his working class background when the reality was that he was a contract worker rather than a direct employee in the places he worked. He didn’t have a company, he was a sole trader. Calling it his own business may not be factually totally incorrect but it’s somewhat misleading.

People only discuss his background and what his Dad did or didn’t do for a living because Starmer has chosen to make it an issue with his comments about class, and people ‘looking down’ on factory workers.

If Starmer hadn’t have made those comments, I’m not sure anyone in the political mainstream would have any real interest in the issue, or they certainly wouldn’t be searching through Companies House to see if his Dad had ever incorporated his business.

 

[hilts]

Always amuses me when his detractors mention that his dad ran his own business to try and downplay his working class background when the reality was that he was a contract worker rather than a direct employee in the places he worked. He didn’t have a company, he was a sole trader. Calling it his own business may not be factually totally incorrect but it’s somewhat misleading.

I read he worked for himself so in effect he was his own company. I don't care to be honest but honest posters would accept calling his family working class is selling a narrative.

 

[Phil1]

Just don’t do anything completely deranged like your opposition continue to do so on a daily basis Keith.

Nearly there.

 

[west didsblue]

I read he worked for himself so in effect he was his own company. I don't care to be honest but honest posters would accept calling his family working class is selling a narrative.

Does being a contractor make someone less working class than being an employee?