Keir Starmer

kaz7 said:
Nobody but the journos were interested in the abbott stuff, they pushed it for a week whilst we have real life problems to be dealing with . You were never going to vote labour tbf but if you are basing your flouncing away from him based on this one non issue then just as well
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It’s not the issue it’s the way he handled it. Just like Trump in this regard. That wasn’t a typical politician white lie it was a bare faced outright lie.

Hopefully enough people, who wouldn’t just vote for a pig in a red rosette, do care about the type person that will lead this country. You enjoy voting for the new tories led by a mini Trump or a Johnson without the personality - all the things you claim to hate. Hypocrite I think is the word.

I’ll sleep well knowing I’m not.
 
metalblue said:
It’s not the issue it’s the way he handled it. Just like Trump in this regard. That wasn’t a typical politician white lie it was a bare faced outright lie.

Hopefully enough people, who wouldn’t just vote for a pig in a red rosette, do care about the type person that will lead this country. You enjoy voting for the new tories led by a mini Trump or a Johnson without the personality - all the things you claim to hate. Hypocrite I think is the word.

I’ll sleep well knowing I’m not.
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How is starmer mini trump lol
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
I saw that - if it’s from the latest Opinium poll out tonight that’s incredible considering the Abbott stuff.

Though I saw a post saying it’s from last week?
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The Abbott stuff is Westminster bubble stuff for most people, it’s not important enough to cut through.

Most will be thinking about things like the conservatives wanting to implement national service, not whether a Labour mp that wouldn’t be anywhere near the cabinet has the whip restored or not.
 
meltonblue said:
The Abbott stuff is Westminster bubble stuff for most people, it’s not important enough to cut through.

Most will be thinking about things like the conservatives wanting to implement national service, not whether a Labour mp that wouldn’t be anywhere near the cabinet has the whip restored or not.
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Aye, the latest poll by Opinium that came out yesterday says exactly that.
 
metalblue said:
Caught a bit of him on Sky yesterday morning when he was asked about Abbott and his about turn etc etc. That’s when he lost my vote.

His response: I answered that yesterday. Well if you did why don’t you repeat the answer for those who didn’t see it? Twice he was asked, twice the same. Can’t be trusted to be straight on something so benign as Dianne Abbott for FFS. The bloke is a snivelling little **** who is full of shit - he’s hard to listen to at the best of times but when he tries to peddle an alternative reality like Trump is famed for he can fuck right off and when he gets there he can fuck off some more - I can’t and won’t vote for this poor man’s Trump.

Lib Dem’s most likely getting my vote (when I see where they are on defence).
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Lol.
 
metalblue said:
The outright painting of an alternative reality. Trump does it all the time, “yesterday you said …”, “I never said that”

I can tolerate the typical lies, I’m going to spend x on y. I’m going to do xyz. Well I can’t do it now because of abc. That’s normal politics.
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You mean you can tolerate Tory lies but draw the line at being misled by a Labour leader.
 
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